TOPICS

Cyber vs Real Time
Does Reality Destroy the Fantasy
Treating One's Sore Bottom
Custody Battles Related to One's Lifestyle Choice
Maintaining a BDSM and Vanilla Lifestyle, Concurrently
Knowing if One is a Dom
Does One's Submissiveness Carry Over into All Aspects of Their Lives
Keeping From Becoming a "Doormat" as a Sub
Finding Out Just What Others Want and Expect

THRVGloryB: I think I see the delightful Pashie Pie sneaking in!

THRVPashun: Hugs and kisses, Glory! :)

Guest 3: not very many people here

THRVPashun: hiya Guest 2:)

Guest 2: Hi!

THRVGloryB: No, Guest3. But we haven't officially started yet.

Guest 3: oh never been here before

THRVGloryB: Hiya, Guest2! And if it's just an intimate little get-together, that works too. :-)

Guest 3: what goes on in here?

Guest 2: Hi, this is my second time. Was on last Friday.

Guest 1: Hello Pashun

THRVPashun: Guest3 We talk about BDSM and kink here :)

THRVGloryB: Guest1--I was wondering what happened to you! Are you okay?
Guest2, it's nice to have you back.

Guest 1: Yep, all in one piece...so far

THRVGloryB: Guest3(and other first-timers), welcome! This chat is devoted...
to BDSM/kinky sex. Folks can ask anything & everything they like about bondage, discipline, SM, etc.

THRVPashun: Welcome one and all to the BSDM chat, with our lovely THRVGloryB:)

Guest 4: ?

Guest 1: Evening, Honey

THRVHoney: Hey there, Guest1!

THRVGloryB: Guest4, could you hold that question until Pashun announces we've begun?

THRVGloryB: Honey! Buena sera! Aha! I see Guest5 just came in.

Guest 4: well I was just thinking....

Guest 5: Hey, how's everyone? Hiya Glory.

THRVPashun: Ladies and gents...dommes and subs.....welcome to the BDSM chat with THRVGloryB:) Please feel free to ask your questions by typing a ? in the room and a ! for a comment.,.our lovely Honey will call on you in order :)

Guest 2: Guest1, I was a pro dom last Saturday.

Guest 1: Ahh....

THRVGloryB: (And L'shanah tovah to some of y'all )

THRVPashun: same to you, Glory :)

Guest 1: Yes, and to you Glory

Guest 4: a nice jewish Domme... what a fantasy..

THRVGloryB: That's me: the NICE Jewish Domme. ;-)

Guest 1: I'm sure, Glory

THRVHoney: Anyone with a question for Glory please type in your "?" or a "!" for any comments and I will call on you..:-)

THRVGloryB: Guest4, did you want to ask the first question tonight?

Guest 7: hi all : )

THRVGloryB: Welcome, Guest17!

Guest 4: ?

THRVHoney: Hiya, Guest7! Guest4, you have a question?

Guest 7: thanks : )

Guest 4: I did want to ask about cyber vs real time.. does reality spoil the fantasy?? do people expect too much after all the cyber?

THRVGloryB: Please do, Guest4!

THRVGloryB: Gosh, Guest4....I hope not! :-)

Guest 6: Guest2...into a custody thing now regarding BDSM

THRVGloryB: But to answer more completely...that is a really complicated question BECAUSE...on the Internet, as you've already implied in your question people do let their imaginations run free. There are no boundaries...

Guest 2: Guest6, please explain.

Guest 5: Hi Pash & Honey. Nice to see you again : )

Guest 8: Evenin Folks, sorry we're late. Glad to be here. :-)

Guest 6: I may loose custody of my child to her father due to my interest in BDSM

Guest 2: ?

THRVGloryB: You don't have to think about such annoying details as... REALITY. :-) If you tend to be a very romantic, impulsive person (i.e., most D&S'ers ) you can VERY easily build up the Net D&S relationship into something...which reality could never HOPE to live up to. I see that happen again and again.

THRVHoney: Hey there, Guest 5 and Guest8!!!! Great to see you too! Guest2, I will call on you in one sec, hun!

Guest 2: Guest6, that's a bummer.

THRVGloryB: Guest6--hang in there. I have some info for you I'll get to in a few.

THRVHoney: Guest2, your question?

Guest 4: it is always dark in my room with the computer...

THRVGloryB: Guest4, do you want a more detailed answer? Well precisely, Guest4. On the Net, you don't have to deal with people getting tired their looks, body odors, eating habits, quirks, etc are basically whatever you (in the ether) want them to be.

Guest 6: The REAL bummer is that there is no such thing as an attorney with an open mind in small town USA

Guest 2: Took a pretty serious caning last week. Recovered. But is there something you should use on your butt after

Guest 4: I think you answered it well my fantasies are safer anyway.

THRVHoney: Aloe Vera may help, Guest2! I use it for everything!!!

Guest 2: Thanks. I may go get another caning, just to try it out.

THRVGloryB: The shock of reality can be quite devastating. I would have to say that one of the single greatest disappointments that I've heard of from submissives is that they go to meet Doms in RT who were "Dominant Master (or Mistress) of the Universe, Beyond Compare" on the Internet and in real life, they act like Pee-Wee Herman. A bit of cognitive dissonance right there. ;-)

Guest 8: And if you grow your own aloe, they are incredibly prolific.

THRVHoney: Let's see what Glory has to say on the subject!

Guest 7: lol Guest2 that's the attitude

Guest 4: on the net these cyber things last a lot longer too lol

THRVGloryB: Guest8! didn't get to say hi.

Guest 8: Hiya Glory, :-)

Guest 4: too late in the evening for those big words, Ms Gloria..

THRVGloryB: Now, it may sound funny to talk about pretenders people who pass themselves off as experienced doms on-line and turn out to be clueless in reality but for a submissive who has invested all his/her emotions and hopes in this dominant it can be absolutely heartbreaking. Sorry, Guest4. I'll stick with shorter words. How about, instead of "cognitive dissonance" --BUMMER!!!!!! :-)

THRVGloryB: El Bummerino! Okay--now who's next? Was it Guest6?

Guest 6: It was

THRVHoney: Yes, I think Guest6 was next!

THRVGloryB: Okay, Guest6--you're involved in a custody suit right now? Is your partner going to raise your kinkiness in court to intimidate you?

Guest 6: Yes I am. He has already done that with the initial paperwork

THRVGloryB: Okay, Guest6. By odd coincidence, just before I came here tonight I was editing a long piece on BDSM & the Law that an attorney who's in the Scene) wrote up for my site. Let me cut and paste...some of his advice into this right now...

Guest 6: :)

THRVGloryB: The first thing you must remember is that if there is even a hint of a problem with your lifestyle as it--folks, please remember I'm quoting this from an attorney's editorial...which will appear in my site in the next week)to continue "relates to your children, you need to contact an attorney right away. Sexual lifestyle is not considered by the courts in determining issues relating to divorce and child custody. There are some cases that even say this. But even if "you live in a progressive state whose courts have said this, the simple fact remains that people hear cases. Okay. The atty. goes on to say that judges may pretend they are being impartial but their own personal biases about your lifestyle can and often will influence their decision, whether or not they admit it.

Guest 1: ah, sneak preview!

THRVGloryB: Guest6--do you have an attorney yet? Did you enjoy the sneak preview, Guest1? :-)

Guest 6: No. They all see the words "alternative lifestyle" and say they can't take the case.

Guest 5: interesting stuff Glory, can't wait to read the whole thing.

THRVGloryB: Hmmmm! Guest6, doesn't the ACLU have someone in your area? What I can do for you is give you this atty's email address.

Guest 6: I am about to telephone them on Monday. That would be terrific. Thank you

Guest 4: ?

Guest 1: Yes, Glory, most informative

THRVGloryB: IMO, Guest6 (which is my opinion only, of course) you need to find an energetic atty. who passionately believes in civil rights. The piece on the law that I'll be hosting on gloria-brame.com is a really good guide to helping people understand that, while the legal system can harass us if they really want to we do have recourse, and often legal precedents for defending ourselves against unjust accusations.

Guest 5: good luck Guest6.

Guest 6: Thank you Guest5

Guest 2: Guest6, you need to find a judge who sees mistresses!

THRVHoney: Guest4, your question?

THRVGloryB: Guest6, could you drop me a line at brame@gloria-brame.com? I will then forward your message to the attorney so he can reply to you directly.

Guest 6: lol Guest2 Yes. I can do that

Guest 4: can one seperate his or her vanilla life from his/her dark side?

THRVGloryB: Cool! :-)

Guest 1: I find that the dark side enhances the vanilla life Guest4!! It's like this amazing secret I find that everything around me is crisper somehow
if that makes any sense

Guest 4: meaning his real life is very vanilla spouse has no desire yet he is happy but is missing something.

THRVGloryB: Honey-bunny? Is Guest4 next?

Guest 8: yep it does :-)

THRVHoney: Yes, Guest4 is next

THRVGloryB: Guest1, that's a great observation! I understand it completely!

Guest 1: That's good to hear, Glory nice to not be alone in that wonder!!

THRVGloryB: Okay, Guest4. Thank you for another fabulous question. First, for better or worse, all of us can compartmentalize our kinky sexuality. We can lock it in a closet, try to "purge" ourselves of it...and basically not act on it for most of our lives. That said--it is not HEALTHY (emotionally) to compartmentalize.

Guest 7: but it doesn't stay gone : )

Guest 4: again tho here online one can explore somewhat safely..

THRVGloryB: Guest7 just said WHY it isn't. :-)

Guest 7: sorry didn't mean to steal your thunder there Glory : )

THRVGloryB: Sooner or later, your need will come out. If you have seriously bottled it up, repressed it, perhaps by never even telling anyone about it, it can really EXPLODE. (Guest7, I've got thunder to spare, don't worry! )

Guest 7: oooo I'm not worried : )

THRVGloryB: (not that dominatrices have big egos or anything ) Guest4, I truly believe that sexual repression is a leading cause of stress, anxiety, hysteria, and potentially even domestic violence. Who you are sexually IS at the heart of your identity & personality.

Guest 9: ?

THRVHoney: Guest9, you have a question?

Guest 1: It's about control, Glory, unfortunately I mean feeling as if you are NOT in control in an unhealthy family situation, maybe

Guest 4: then maybe this cyber stuff is ok...
.
THRVGloryB: It will always show itself. So if your "dark side" does not have a safe... consensual outlet, it's very possibly it will play itself out... in less obvious but far more negative ways in your life.

Guest 9: mmmhmmm How do I *know* Im a Dom?

THRVGloryB: One very typical and sad outcome: way too many sexual submissives
who end up being emotional masochists in "vanilla" relationships...or doormats at the office. Guest1--to go back to your comment about the "crispness" (great word)as I experienced it, when I was first coming out SM "righted" the world for me and made me understand so much more about my own power relationships in every day life as well as seeing how other people dealt with power. It also helped me find my "place" in the world, so to speak

Guest 1: Yes, makes great sense "People will always be tempted to wipe their feet on anything with Welcome written on it."

THRVGloryB: Amen, Guest1.

Guest 10: ?

THRVHoney: Guest10, your question, my love?

Guest 10: well, when Guest9 gets his other ? answered...I'll go.

THRVGloryB: Is Guest9 next?

Guest 9: ::thinks his was a *dom* question or somethin:: ::chuckles::

THRVGloryB: Guest9--you want to know whether you're a Dom? Well, for starters... what kinds of sexual fantasies do you have?

Guest 10: it's ok, Honey..I know my place.

THRVHoney: I thought Guest9's question was answered

Guest 10: not his second.

THRVGloryB: Guest10, dear, we've got two Mstrs here tonight: Guest9 & Guest4

Guest 9: ::looks around::

Guest 10: oh..oops

THRVGloryB: Guest9--do you fantasize about tying/spanking etc. someone else?

Guest 9: No I can't say I have

THRVGloryB: (By the way--welcome to the newcomers!) Then what do you fantasize about, Guest9? Do you fantasize about controlling them sexually?

Guest 9: Not much of anything Gloria

THRVGloryB: Then why do you think you may be dominant at all, dear?

Guest 9: Yas, I'm always in control...

THRVGloryB: What attracts you to it?

Guest 9: well I know I am attracted to subs

THRVGloryB: Do you know why you are attracted to them? Is it the idea that these are people who'll whatever you want in bed?

Guest 1: Oops, sorry, Glory. I just find that the fantasy/planning is key.

THRVGloryB: Guest1--agreed. But if Guest9 is *just* starting out, it could be more complicated...

Guest 4: I gotta go everyone, thanks Ms Glory..

Guest 9: no it is more than that I'm exploring Definately a starter outer and not in a big hurry either

THRVGloryB: Thanks, Guest4! Come back again sometime.

Guest 4: I will...

Guest 8: lol

Guest 2: ?

THRVGloryB: Guest9, do you have any clear ideas on what makes submissives so attractive to you? Have you ever thought about bdsm-type scenarios? For example, if you read pornography, are you attracted to BDSM-type images/stories?

Guest 9: I'm not into porn

THRVGloryB: May I ask how old you are, Finn? If you don't mind. Could be relevant.

Guest 9: 45 and a half

THRVGloryB: That half is very important!!

Guest 6: lol

Guest 9: I agree ::does eyebrows::

THRVGloryB: I mean, if you were ONLY 45, I'd be shocked that you don't like porn!

Guest 9: LOL

THRVGloryB: But seeing as you are actually part of a much OLDER generation... (rolling eyes)....

Guest 9: didn't say I didn't like it.. don't seek it

Guest 8: old enuf to have become delightfully jaded.

THRVGloryB: Well. Oh! Okay, that's better! There ya go, Guest8. All those naked people do get kind dull after a Certain Age. ;-)

THRVGloryB: <--thinks her "certain age" will be roughly 93.

Guest 9: heehee

THRVPashun: They do, Glory???? :)


THRVGloryB: By then, my skeleton will have shrunk me down to about 9" But they will nine MEAN inches, I'll tell you that much. :-)

Guest 8: rotfl

THRVPashun: LOL :)

THRVGloryB: Guest9, I fear we (the Royal We) are having difficulty figuring out exactly why you think you're a dom in the first place. Could you help the Royal Us out? ;-)

Guest 9: Perhaps it is developmental

THRVGloryB: Developmental? Uhhhh....?

Guest 9: the tendencies are inherant, and then we build on them ::shrugs::

Guest 5: hmm...this could get interesting.

THRVGloryB: Yes, I agree--but I would add that those inherent tendancies do tend to show themselves throughout our lives, and very often in our sexual fantasies. I basically can't remember a time in my life (going back to age 5 or so)...when I didn't find men in bondage to be a very exciting image. I was addicted to those bad Saturday morning B-movies about gladiators and stuff they used to run when I was a kid. And I'm 43...and one month!

Guest 1: Agreed

Guest 9: hmmmm

Guest 8: !

Guest 9: ::blinks:: really....

THRVPashun: 43 and 1/12 :)

THRVGloryB: <--lots of hmmmm'ing from Guest9.

Guest 1: It's funny, had a conversation about space travel and anti-gravity you'd HAVE to be strapped in bed to not bump into walls

THRVGloryB: Pashie, where would I be without your scientific precision?!
smooooooooooch

Guest 1: LOL

THRVPashun: ROFL! :) smooches back :)

THRVGloryB: Guest9, yep. I also liked seeing girls tied to whipping posts as they threw back their heads insouciantly and stared angrily at their captors.
I couldn't get enough of Tarzan in his little loincloth.

THRVPashun: Guest8, did you have a comment dear?

THRVGloryB: Guest9 could *you* get enough of Tarzan in his little loin cloth?

Guest 6: LOL :::and Hercules:::

Guest 8: Guest9, IMHO the power kink is inherent, either you is or you ain't, and somehow the experiences we have either trigger it awake or don't, kinda like the formula for area, lengthx width, genetic x environment, it's a combination and the moment of coming out to yourself can be at any age.

Guest 1: you are so bad, Glory! LOL

THRVGloryB: Hercules! And Spartacus! Guest1, no, if I was REALLY bad, I'd say something about Cheetah. "Is you is or is you ain't...a sadist"

Guest 9: Thanx ::laughs:: I know that one!!

THRVGloryB: Guest9, we're teasing you a bit. But Guest8's point is good. I agree with Guest8 on that last point too! People may not "come out" to themselves until middle age or even old age but once they do, and they begin to look back at their lives it all starts to fall into place. I didn't know I was an SMer until I was nearly 30. Until then, I would NEVER in a million years have believed it.

Guest 9: well, I was surprised.... I wanna be sure...

Guest 6: <~~was 38.

Guest 8: ?

Guest 9: I was 45 .......

Guest 6: Knew it at age 12

THRVPashun: Go ahead with your question, Guest 8:)

THRVGloryB: Guest6--how did you know so early? I'm not talking about...knowing that one has some kinky fantasies (I always knew that, I guess)... but that one is really a "sadomasochist" or whatever.

Guest 10: it's ok..just skip mine and Guest2's..

Guest 8: knew at 7 but was in the closet to myself til 46.

THRVPashun: oops sorry ;( Please forgive me Guest10 and Guest2


THRVGloryB: Guest8--that, I think, is more typical.

Guest 8: question is for Guest9, do you have trouble with guilt about it, or the ethics of it? the "shoulds" ?

THRVGloryB: <--giving Pashie a stern look >:-< You must be cyber-spanked! >:-<
Guest10, you're next!!!

THRVPashun: :(

THRVGloryB: <--pointing to corner. Press your nose against the wall and count to three. Then come back & be hugged.

Guest 10: I was just wondering a looong time ago when Glory said that too many sexual sub's become doormats at the office.. do you find that sub's in relationships are the same in RL?

Guest 7: shoulds?

THRVPashun: <---going off to the corner to sulk ....1....2....3....

Guest 9: none

THRVGloryB: (The hugs are your punishment )

THRVPashun: hug me!!! :)

Guest 8: should be this... shouldn't be that... etc

Guest 7: ah thanks

Guest 8: :) welcome

Guest 11: Hi all

THRVGloryB: Guest10--you mean whether sexual subs are submissive at work, as a rule?

Guest 10: hey Guest11. Yes, Glory, and in other relationships, such as w/friends, etc...

THRVGloryB: Guest10, no I don't think it works exactly like that. For example... even though someone may be sexually submissive, he or she may... have an extremely powerful social persona... and often may have friendships and other relationships... where he or she (for whatever reason) has more power. I've also noticed (and it's a truism) that many submissives are over-achievers at work.

Guest 5: you mean becoming doormats in relationships too, right?

Guest 7: !

Guest 10: then why would a sexual submissive become a doormat at the office?

Guest 5: lol that hit home.

THRVGloryB: That said, I think that there IS a tendancy for sexual submissives to play out their internal dramas in real life. For example...another way of looking at some of those profl. overachievers...is that they are, in a sense, professional masochists...dominant personalities, overall, tend to be a mite more laid back. Guest5--did that hit home too?

Guest 5: lol no comment.

THRVGloryB: I think that whenever a sexual submissive, then, is in a power structure where s/he is indeed a "lesser" (say with his or her boss)...the submissive tendancies may emerge full force. And, while it may not be quite so apparent in friendships... I think it does come up often in love relationships and in FAMILY relationships

THRVPashun: I am sorry to say that our chat tonight has come to an end :( Please come back next week :) Thank you all for being with us tonight :)

THRVHoney: Thank you everyone for a very interesting chat!

Guest 7: how true, how true

Guest 1: So glad you are here!

THRVHoney: XOXOXOXOXOX Play nice!

THRVGloryB: With submissives all too often being the accommodator. (giving in to their parents too easily, for example) We're DONE!?!? ALREADY!!!!?????? (SOB!) Boy that went fast!

Guest 10: gotcha.

Guest 7: <~~thinks Glory has been watching her live her life

THRVPashun: yes, :(

Guest 5: keep going Glory, this is interesting.

THRVHoney: LOL Glory, it did!

THRVGloryB: Say guys--you had the most AMAZING questions tonight!!!

THRVPashun: They sure did! :)

THRVHoney: Night, Glory and Pash Pie's!

THRVGloryB: Pashie--could we keep the room open another 15 mins, you think? You & Honey don't have to stick around.

THRVPashun: sure, Glory :) anything for you :)

Guest 5: Please?

THRVHoney: :::::Taking back, good nights:::::;

THRVPashun: I would love to stay :)

THRVHoney: Me too!

THRVGloryB: (feel like I'm violating their management contracts! ) Okay, let's go for another 15 mins!

Guest 8: Hooray!!!

THRVPashun: Well...I don't know about contracts :)

Guest 1: Glory, Honey and Pashun, you all are quite a team!

THRVHoney: I believe Guest2 had the next question

Guest 9: ::sits down again::

THRVGloryB: Anyhow...so that's how I see the kind of emotional traps subbies fall into. This group RULES!! Awesome! Guest6, were you next? And then Guest8, I believe. And THEN we'll end, okay y'all? :-)

THRVPashun: Guest1...thanks!! And YOU are a wonderful guest here :)

Guest 6: No....I was just funning.

Guest 9: k

Guest 8: uhhh, me? got distracted, fergot.

THRVGloryB: Funning? Hmmmmmmm. Funning a MISTRESS. HMMMMMM.

Guest 5: yep, & go for two hours from now on, right?

THRVHoney: No, i believe Guest2had the next question

THRVPashun: LOL Guest 5:)

Guest 6: <~~self induced coner time.

THRVGloryB: Oh! Guest2! Sorry! Go ahead.

THRVGloryB: I'll tell you what, Guest5--you get AOL to give me a percent of their profits...and I'll be here for ya, babe! :-)

Guest 2: Yes, but forgot.

THRVGloryB: Oh no! We will now be twiddling our dommely fingers for 15 mins?
Everybody forgot their questions. >:-<

Guest 5: wish I could, Glory.

Guest 8: just get aol stock back up above 119, that'll do.

Guest 5: I have one.

THRVHoney: Oh LOL;.....Ok, Guest2!

THRVGloryB: Yes, Guest5. What is it?

Guest 12: ?

Guest 2: This thing is pretty tame. How come nobody gets specific about their experiences and what they're into?

THRVGloryB: Guest12, please jump in too!

Guest 5: going back to what you said about the traps subs fall into with families is there any easy way out of that particular trap?

THRVGloryB: Guest2--you mean in this room? Or in general?

Guest 12: As a true submissive, I have recently been offered the opportunity to top 2 fav men I have only bondage fantasies they probably would like more

Guest 8: !

THRVGloryB: Guest5--working with your Master on these issues is VERY helpful.
Talking about power dynamics, and how your submissiveness.. may express itself outside your relationship.

Guest 7: very difficult tho emotionally

Guest 5: that's easier said than done, tho, Glory.

Guest 8: can I offer my solution to that for your opinion Glory?

THRVGloryB: I would expect that Guest8 has much to say on it. :-) Sure, Guest8! Go ahead.

THRVGloryB: (Guest12, I'll get to you next)

Guest 2: In this room

Guest 12: ; ) thanks

Guest 8: complete submission to one's Dom overrides the tendency to sub to family as long as the Dom understands the family obligations that are legitimate.

THRVGloryB: Guest2--hmmm...we'll I've talked about some of the stuff I do with my slave, "tinkerbell" (that's his handle in here). I guess most folks are worried...about breaking AOL's rules on decency for the system.

Guest 5: but they're all legitimate.

THRVGloryB: Guest8--do you mean that by completely submitting a sub loses the need...to submit to the family? Or that it's the Dom's job to oversee...the sub's relationship with his/her family? Guest2--personally I welcome any specific details people would care to share... but no one is asked to reveal more than they wish.

Guest 2: Can get the message across without being gross. Think next week should be "show & tell".

Guest 8: the Dom isn't hooked into the family pattern, and can distinguish between obligations that are real and those that would harm the sub.

THRVGloryB: Ooooh! Show and Tell! Not bad! :-)

THRVGloryB: Guest8--yes, very good point. And from my POV, it is a dominant's responsibility to work with a submissive on any areas of his/her life where the Dom feels the sub is not fulfilling his/her potential or is being emotionally taken advantage of. To my mind, that's the distinction between a "true dominant" (to use a misused term)and someone who just gets his/her kicks from doing kink.

Guest 8: yep, my thoughts exactly.

Guest 7: I can see what you're saying, but my MomDomme would freak if I put my Master before her needs : )

Guest 8: LOL

Guest 1: ?

Guest 5: that all works in theory guys, but blood runs deeper than anything I know.

Guest 7: yes Guest5

Guest 8: yep, I understand that too.

Guest 7: and sub- to family is something you have known longer (in almost every case i think) than sub to Dom/me

THRVGloryB: Guest5--not just blood, but an entire lifetime of behavioral conditioning.

Guest 5: yeah, that too.

Guest 2: What's wrong with just doing kink?

THRVGloryB: Guest2--nothing wrong with it, but not the same of taking on...the full responsibilities of dominance. A sub who is looking for a complete experience of dominance...will find it hard to be satisfied with someone who just can get into...doing kinky things. They need more.

Guest 6: Yes. Yes yes yes. I agree

Guest 5: very true Guest7.

Guest 12: So true...

Guest 2: True, I can't handle the heavy stuff I do unless she's a lifestyle dom.

THRVGloryB: Guest12--to get back to your question (the last one tonight!)...

Guest 12: nice segway

Guest 5: lol

THRVGloryB: Guest12, have you discussed in any detail what kind of scenarios your friends would like?

Guest 12: not at all.. it's all up to me

THRVGloryB: (Guest12's question was about topping, for the first time, two sub friends...when (a) she is only into bondage, (b) is actually submissive and (c) thinks the two friends would like more than bondage.

Guest 12: Not at once, ya know!

Guest 1: Have to say good night all!! Namaste and peace...

Guest 8: night Guest 1:)

Guest 7: goodnight Guest 1: )

THRVGloryB: Oh! And here I had visions of tag-team submission. Oh well. ;-)

Guest 5: night Guest1, see you next week.

THRVGloryB: Namaste, Guest1!

Guest 6: lolol

Guest 12: I am hereby corrected

THRVGloryB: Guest12--even though you are the dominant, ALL doms discuss fantasies (or should discuss them!) before actually playing with someone. How else are you supposed to know where to start with them?

Guest 9: hmmmm

Guest 12: so we should discuss plenty in advance..(I don't do much of that as sub)

THRVGloryB: Contrary to popular opinions, Doms aren't mind-readers. :-) Though we DO try our best. ;-)

Guest 5: hah! wanta bet?

Guest 8: no kidding. Lol

THRVGloryB: Yes, Guest12. You can handle it a number of ways. You could make up a little questionnaire for them to fill out...or pick one up on line. Have them check the scenes that turn them on. Or you could make them write down their three hottest fantasies...and send/give them to you, so you can mull them over.

Guest 2: Good idea, Glory, filling out those questionaires can be a real turn on!

THRVGloryB: I would never play with anyone who had not communicated... to me in rather precise terms what kinds of things turn him or her on.

Guest 12: that's good, so it will be a surprise which I choose

THRVGloryB: Right, Guest12! And writing it down or filling out an "application" is both easier and often more exciting for the sub. Talking can be difficult & will make a shy person freeze up.

Guest 12: those apps are a bit extreme for me

Guest 10: good night, all...bed awaits tonight, and work tomorrow...

Guest 8: writing werks for Guest5 way better than talking.

Guest 5: night Guest10.

THRVGloryB: Guest12, make up your own! It can be whatever you like.

Guest 12: but the 3 fantasies is excellent - thanks

THRVGloryB: Well, you guys...I think our time is REALLY up! Sure, Guest12! Let us know how it goes!

THRVPashun: Super chat tonight, Glory! :)

THRVHoney: Night EVERYONE!!!!

Guest 12: Gosh - a thousand thanks... I will!!

THRVGloryB: You can even bring those fantasies to our "Show and Tell" session. :-) Bye all!

Guest 5: great chat tonight guys. see everybody next week.