TOPICS

Gloria's Path to BDSM
Pro Dommes
What is PsychoDrama
Introducing One in The World of BDSM
The Dangers of The Fantasy of Asphyxiation
Being Submissive without Giving up All Independence

THRVGloryB: How do, Honey-Pie! Pashun--as always, a DELIGHT.

Guest 1: Hello Glory

THRVPashun: Smooches, Glory! ;)

THRVGloryB: Hiya, Guest1. I see you made it back!

Guest 2: Hello Glory.

Guest 1: Yes, fell asleep before the chat last week LOL

THRVGloryB: I thought everyone would be spending tonight reading the Starr Report. Hiya, Guest2.

Guest 1: No way...he makes me ill

THRVPashun: I've seen enough of it ; )

Guest 2: ::groan::: I'm never that bored.

THRVGloryB: You ever hear the expression, "honi soit qui mal y pense"? Evil to him that does evil.

Guest 1: So what's on the plate tonight Glory? Agreed ;)


THRVPashun: Ahhh, quite appropriate, Glory

THRVGloryB: Oh, the usual flavors, Guest1...everything but vanilla. ;-)

Guest 2: sounds about right. wish I had a safe word for all of them in DC

Guest 1: I knew I liked you for a reason

THRVGloryB: I just hope the American public in general feels as disgusted... as we wholesome perverts.

Guest 3: I think the rep. party paid a lot of money to get the pres. every know that a true man gets excited very easily

THRVPashun: Ladies and gents...Dommes and subs... it is my pleasure to welcome you to the BDSM and Kink chat with our delightful and delicious, THRVGloryB!! :)

Guest 2: clinton did wrong, but that doesn't excuse starr's behavior either.

THRVGloryB: And let's not forget Sexually Sinful! Mmmmm. Guest2--I agree. Clinton was STUPID. But Starr is vicious.

THRVPashun: oh yes!! Those too! ;)

THRVGloryB: And delightfully depraved?

Guest 1: Clinton is a boy and always will be

THRVPashun: but of course :)

Guest 3: you are right, if he and Hillary went swinging that is there business not every one in the world

THRVHoney: Anyone with a question please type in your "?" and a "!" for your comments and I will call on you....;-)

Guest 2: personally I think Hillary is the only one who needs be concerned with his actions.

THRVGloryB: I just added "Starr" and "Clinton" to the metatags on my homepage. :-)

Guest 1: How can you command respect when you don't respect yourself?

Guest 3: you are right again

THRVGloryB: I'm still waiting to find out how the Starr Report--as he swore it would-- "demonstrates a pattern of obstruction" in Whitewater, Travel Ofic., etc.
If he has facts about those, I wish I'd hear those instead.. of the cigar- diddling incident. (Though I must admit...it sounds like fun!)

Guest 2: VERY good point Gloria. Never did understand how it got from real estate to his sex life.????

THRVGloryB: Well, now that we've ranted a bit about Bill...did anyone want to talk about BDSM? :-)

Guest 3: to many thing don't add up with what she said in to different depo

THRVHoney: They got desperate, if you ask me

Guest 1: yes, that's why I'm here Glory

Guest 4: yes

THRVPashun: Guest1....fabulous!!! That is why WE are here too! ;)

Guest 3: what is bsdm

THRVHoney: Anyone with a question please type in your "?" and a "!" for your comments and I will call on you....;-)

Guest 1: LOL Livn in CA: yes, I do ---spanking is my fetish

THRVGloryB: What a coincidence! That's why I dropped by myself!

THRVPashun: :)

Guest 1: ?

THRVHoney: Guest1, you have a question?

THRVGloryB: Spankers welcome!

Guest 1: Yes, Glory, do others ever ask you about your lifestyle choice?

THRVGloryB: They ask all kinds of questions about my lifestyle. :-) Would you like to ask one?

Guest 1: Well, just about what brought you down the path I suppose

THRVGloryB: My life is an open website. :-) http://gloria-brame.com. Guest1, I have an essay about my voyage on my webiste, but breifly...

Guest 1: ah...no problem...I will look

THRVGloryB: Like most of us, it wasn't until I was an adult and looked back...that things about my earlier life began to make sense...for example, as a kid I was addicted to gladiator movies and costume dramas...where people were captured and forced into humiliating situations...

Guest 1: I'm with you sister

THRVGloryB: I was IN LOVE with Spartacus. Seriously. He was my dream boat...
especially when he got bound to the cross in the end., :-)

Guest 1: I AM SPARTACUS..no I am LOL sorry

THRVHoney: LOL...... Guest1

THRVGloryB: But you know how it is when you're a child...I even played spanking games.. with my little playmates as a child.

Tnkrbell77: The Cross? :-)

THRVGloryB: Tnkrbell77: You know who's in the dog house. And it isn't Bobo.

THRVPashun: uh oh....Tink...:/

Tnkrbell77: oops

THRVGloryB: When I finally realized I was an SMer, then suddenly all KINDS of things...started making sense--why I always tried talking lovers into bondage...why I had never been able to make vanilla relationships work... why I couldn't come without fantasizing about something kinky. Etc.

Guest 2: ?

THRVGloryB: Guest2?

Guest 2: when or how, did you get the "vocabulary" to fit your feelings?

THRVGloryB: Well, after lots of confusion, it was a girlfriend who finally turned me on to the world of SM. BDSM/D&S, whatever you call it. :-) She talked me into joining a BDSM bbs on-line (this was in the mid-80s) I was absolutely and positively shocked when I realized...that people were having conversations about the things I fantasized about. It was a profound awakening for me, on every level.

Guest 2: :)

Guest 1: ?

THRVHoney: Guest1?

Guest 1: And what was your first scene?

THRVGloryB: My first r/t experience after I knew "I am an SMer"?

Guest 1: yes

THRVGloryB: Because I did a bunch of email stuff before r/t.

Guest 1: Oh? email? In what way?

THRVGloryB: I remember it very clearly. I talked a sympathetic male friend...into going with me to an SM club--the Hellfire in NY I was VERY excited and shocked by everything I saw.

Guest 1: ::sigh:: want to go to a club....

THRVGloryB: I had been giving various male slaves training instructions in email... having them perform perverted duties for me, etc. But the club was another level of magnitude.

Tnkrbell77: <--remembers Hellfire

Guest 1: I can imagine....how tintilating it must have been or is

THRVGloryB: Anyway, I watched for a few hours, and then spotted a VERY good- looking man in the crowd. Several men had been hovering near me... trying to get noticed.

Guest 1: What was the ratio of men to women?

THRVHoney: Que is wide open.....

THRVGloryB: At the time (this was 1987, maybe '86)...it was MOSTLY male. I'd say 20 to one. Which, by the way, was fine by me. :-)

Guest 1: wow a dream

THRVPashun: :)

Tnkrbell77: sounds like terrible odds to me. :-)

THRVGloryB: I used to work on Wall St...where, in the 80s, the ratio of m to f was even higher. Anyway, I picked that nice-looking man out of the crowd and ordered him up to the little stage... where I had him kneel before me, while I talked to him, playing with his mind... and making him jerk off while I teased and tormented his mind. I recall I made him suck his thumb like a baby while everyone watched. That was my very first r/t experience. It was memorable.

Guest 1: mmmm....

Guest 5: {{{{{pashun, glory}}}}}

Guest 1: One more question

THRVGloryB: Sure, Fire.

THRVPashun: {{{{{Guest5}}}}} :)

Guest 1: Glory Do you train? I mean dommes?

THRVGloryB: Train them to do what?

Guest 1: LOL, I would say use your imagination but I bet it's wider open than mine

THRVGloryB: Guest1, I don't do any D&S commercially. I play with people I enjoy. That's really the best way to explain it. :-)

Guest 1: I suppose I'm sitting here imagining your life and wondering how to achieve it But deep down I do know how...if that makes sense at all

THRVGloryB: Well, you won't achieve it by sitting there. :-) You have to go out and DO. Yes, Guest1, it does! It makes perfect sense.

Guest 1: yes...and I am thankful you are here to let me discuss it with you

THRVGloryB: Until I actually started doing D&S with people, I wasn't really sure I'd have a clue what to do... but once I actually dominated someone it felt like the most NATURAL thing in the world. It made total emotional sense to me.

Guest 6: I have been a pro Domme-- I prefer to do it for love these days

THRVGloryB: I can understand that, Guest6! What changed your mind?

THRVHoney: Anyone with a question for Glory please type in your "?" or your "!" for any comment and I will call on you...

Guest 6: It just wasn't as fun w/ economics involved

Guest 1: economics Guest6?

Guest 6: paying the bills with it. It was hard to be as choosy as I tend to be privately

THRVGloryB: Guest1--I think taking money for erotic intimacy changes the whole nature of the relationship.

Guest 6: YES indeed

THRVGloryB: I did psychodrama privately for a while...I felt the same way.

Guest 1: Yes, I can see that....it's not about intimacy anymore It's about service

THRVGloryB: You can't always pick your clients and you can't always do what you want, since they are paying you for a service.

Guest 7: what is psychodrama?

THRVGloryB: Hey, folks! Please feel free to ask questions and make comments. We welcome input from everyone, no matter their level of experience.

Guest 1: LOL, Glory, you reading my mind, eh?

Guest 6: Exactly--- I still had limits but negotiations focused on the client more

THRVGloryB: Guest7, it means you act out their sexual fantasies in role-play.
For example: they have a fantasy of being a naughty schoolboy who... gets paddled by a strict schoolteacher. I once dressed up as a governess, I recall. :-)

Guest 7: gotcha

THRVHoney: Anyone with a question for Glory please type in your "?" or your "!" for any comment and I will call on you...

Guest 8: ?

THRVHoney: Guest8, you have a question?

Guest 8: I always have a question..lol

THRVGloryB: I was doing this, btw, while I was also teaching college English at a local university. My greatest fear was that a student would one day walk through the door. :-)

THRVHoney: LOL...... Guest8

Guest 8: may I?

Guest 1: LOL, would have loved you as a teach, Glory

THRVHoney: Of course, Guest8!

Guest 8: My question is this..what if you are involved with someone who is very vanilla but the idea of D's has always intrigued you..such as bondage etc. And the whole lifestyle? Is there a way to introduce them to the idea without scaring the heck out of them..?

Guest 6: !

THRVGloryB: Ah! Then you'll want to read my next book, CONSENTING ADULTS. :-)
BUT...since it won't be out until 1999....have you ever tried...talking to your partner about experimenting with kink?

Guest 8: yes..very opposed.

THRVHoney: Guest6, your comment?

THRVGloryB: Do you have any inkling as to why your partner is so opposed?
Sometimes strong opposition can mask unresolved feelings.

Guest 8: very religious.

Guest 6: yes--- have you explained a negotiation contract so that you each know exactly what a first session might entail? Go slow & do things the partner already likes

THRVGloryB: Guest8, are you interested in the dominant or submissive role with your partner? And is the religion Christian? There is lots of room in Judeo- Christian belief...that allows for a D&S type of relationship.

Guest 8: submissive....somewhat..lol..I could never be a proper submissive..I don't follow orders well, but I have tried bondage before with someone else. Before my fiance and I got together..and liked it very much

THRVGloryB: Guest6 is making good points too. Trying to start out gentle, and...expanding on your existing repertoire, instead of springing new things, might help.

Guest 2: !

THRVHoney: Guest2, your comment, please.

THRVGloryB: Yes, and please folks--no question is too silly. We're here to help you.

Guest 2: it worked with my husband. he was vanilla to the core. lots of talking and just small steps turned his interest up.

THRVGloryB: The talking can't be stressed enough! Ldy, you sound like you've got...a positive attitude towards it. Perhaps, in time, some of it will rub off on your partner.

Guest 6: !

Guest 1: !

THRVHoney: Guest6, your comment?

Guest 6: I have successfully perverted one husband & one boyfriend-- chin up & commincate about Everthing

THRVHoney: Guest1, you have a comment?

Guest 2: LOL. I like that.

Guest 8: LoL

Guest 1: Honey, can I make that a question?

THRVGloryB: Guest6! LOL! I just LOVE corrupting men!

THRVHoney: Sure, Guest1

Guest 1: I have sort of been seeing someone...the last time we were together he asked me to place my hands about throat and cut his air off while he came It totally unnerved me My question is how to reconcile it

THRVGloryB: Guest8...my new book, DOMINA, is about a religious young man's profound moral conflicts about his SM desires.

THRVPashun: DOMINA!!!! A Must READ! :)

Guest 8: I might have to check that out..lol, I can imagine his face

Guest 1: LOL, Ldy, is that comment towards me?

Guest 8: lol..nope..toward Glory..her book, I can imagine my fiance's face if I were reading it

Guest 1: ah...okay

THRVGloryB: Guest1--that is an extreme scene. Did you actually cut off his air?
There is a very significant risk in doing that.

Guest 1: No, Glory, I could not do it....I was too unnerved

THRVGloryB: Okay, Guest1. that was WISE of you. That kind of edge-play should ONLY be done (if at all) after you have fully informed yourself... of the risks. A novice could accidentally kill someone doing that.

THRVPashun: Glory, isn't that akin to autoerotic asphyxiation?

Guest 1: I couldn't sleep that night...it totally freaked me and yes, Pashun, I went out to the web to read about it I'm sort of a pseudo expert on autoerotic asphyxiation now

Guest 6: !

Guest 8: ?

THRVHoney: Guest6, your comment?

THRVGloryB: Is this something he does when he's by himself, Guest1?

Guest 1: No, with a partner or so he says

THRVGloryB: Pashun, well, autoerotic means you do it to yourself... people with that fetish occasionally end up as accidental suicides, alas.

Guest 6: Be extremely careful of the thymus gland & larynx in middle front of throat gland is easily bruised

THRVHoney: Guest8, I will take your question in a second, hun!

Guest 8: np

Guest 1: Yes, I can imagine Guest6 I won't walk that path

Guest 5: ?

THRVGloryB: However, choking fantasies--as fantasies--are not uncommon. Guest1, perhaps he could settle for the semblance of it... say a tight collar or verbal threats?

THRVHoney: Guest8, your question?

Guest 1: LOL, yes

THRVHoney: Guest5, you will be up next in a few!

Guest 8: My question is this..I know that I am not completely submissive..I know that I don't take orders well..couldn't sit in a room and so forth with eyes down ..all that garbage..but I want him to take more control without giving up my independence..is there a way to do this..? And might I add that I don't spell worth a crud..lol..sorry,

THRVHoney: Anyone with a qyestion for Glory please type in your "?" or your "!" for any comment and I will call on you...
THRVHoney: <~~~~is no Webster herself.....LOL

Guest 8: lol

THRVGloryB: Guest8, there is absolutely no law anywhere that says you must be...
the same kind of sub that others are (or claim to be)....the whole trick to this is finding out what works best for you and your partner...If what you want is more control in bed, purely for erotic pleasure...then that is the goal you should work towards.

Guest 8: well..a little in our life too..but not total..I dont want to be a slave or a servant..maid...etc..

THRVGloryB: Guest8--I have one piece of advice. Don't decide what you WON'T be...before you've really experimented with what you WANT to be.

Guest 8: LoL..uhoh..

THRVGloryB: Limits, desires, expectations--they all change over time. The same thing that may sound a bit yucky to you right now... could turn out to be an incredible turn on down the road. With the right partner, limits expand and boundaries vanish.

Guest 6: !

THRVHoney: Guest6, your comment, hun?

Guest 6: Definately my experience

Guest 6: <---- started out as lifestyle Domme--- became pro Domme & now am 24/7 sub

THRVHoney: Guest5, I will take your question in a sec, love!

THRVGloryB: Wow! Guest6, that is quite a journey!

THRVHoney: Guest5, your question, Love?

Guest 5: what does the thymus gland do, and why is it important to not bruise it?

THRVGloryB: Can you share any words of wisdom with Guest8?

Guest 1: Wow Guest6....I'm impressed

Guest 6: Thymus regulates some hormonal flows---bruising just not good idea on something that important

Guest 5: I thought the thymus was an immune system gland inside the chest. You mean thyroid?

Guest 6: Well words of universal wisdom-- No but there is value in exploring both Dom & sub to some degree Duh-- yes thanks LOL

Guest 5: ok..I was confused for a sec.

THRVGloryB: Looks like the conference is winding down! Everyone is probably off to read the Starr Report! :-)

THRVHoney: LOL....Glory!

Guest 1: Already Glory? Never enough time LOL

THRVPashun: But this chat is FAR more interesting that that report! :)

THRVGloryB: One funny little anecdote....Will told his mom the other night about the infamous "cigar episode"... after a few "yick!" and "uck" comments she said.."I thought he was against tobacco!"

THRVHoney: Oh LOL

Guest 1: hehe

THRVHoney: Too bad Guest5 didn't smoke cigars,,,hehehehe

Guest 5: next week we should discuss toys and their roles in sexual encounters. Discuss what makes a good toy. How to properly choose and use good toys.

THRVPashun: LOL :)

THRVGloryB: Sure, Guest5. All you need to do is ask! I'm a walking encyclopedia of SM sex toys. Guest5--what makes a good toy is a good dominant. ;-)

Guest 5: ah..I see. So we should discuss how to choose and use a good dominant?

THRVGloryB: I shop not just at BDSM shops, but hardware stores and kitchen supply stores. There ya go, Guest5!

Guest 5: but within the realm of dominants, are there good and bad ones, and how does one decide good vs bad? How far in should a dominant be inserted? Hehe

THRVHoney: Oh LOL

THRVPashun: LOL

THRVHoney: <~~~~thinks Guest5 is being a smartbutt, Glory!

Guest 1: Glory, Honey and Pashun...thank you

THRVPashun: Well, on that note..I am afraid our chat is over for the night......

Guest 6: night all

Guest 5: ok..I"m gone w/that one..

THRVPashun: you are welcome Guest 1:)

Guest 1: I hope to see you again next week, Namaste my friends

Guest 8: I got booted, wanted to say goodbye Thanx for answering my questions.

THRVGloryB: Hey, Guest8! Thanks!

THRVPashun: Please come back again next Friday night :) Thank you all for your participation :)

THRVGloryB: Thanks to all for being here!! Hope to see you all again, sometime!
The warm fires of this chatroom will be especially comforting...as winter chills our toes. :-)

Guest 5: chills? you should be here.

THRVPashun: Hugs and kisses, Glory :)

THRVGloryB: Take care, everyone! Pashie & Honey...as always...you're the best!