TOPICS

Genital Gloves
Fisting Safety
Getting a Tough Behind from Too Much Spanking
What Affects One's Tolerance to Pain
"Resistance"

THRVGloryB: Hello, all!

Guest 1: Good evening, Glory

THRVPashun: Hi there Glory dear! :)

Guest 2: Good evening, Miz B :)

THRVGloryB: Hi, Guest1. Bonsoir, Pashie-Pie. How-do to Guest2. :-) Hunnie-Bunnie!

THRVHoney: How is everyone tonight?

THRVPashun: Ladies and gentlemen...I am pleased to introduce you to our most wonderful, eloquent and lovely Glory! :) Please join us tonight in our discussion about BDSM and kink :)

THRVGloryB: Oh! Lovely too? Have you been peeking at my new photographs?

THRVHoney: :::::Clapping loudly:::::::::

THRVPashun: oh yes, Glory:) hahah

THRVGloryB: OH MY! :-) What a naughty Pashie-Pie! :-)

THRVHoney: <~~~Wonders where these photos might be

THRVGloryB: Honey, what is the sound of one hand spanking?

THRVPashun: LOL ;) Would you have me any other way? :)

Tnkrbell77: Hi everyone.

THRVGloryB: http://gloria-brame.com/domidea/thumbs.htm Tinkie-winkie!

THRVHoney: Oh LOL......Glory! ::::Innocent tone:::::I don't know!

THRVPashun: Hugs Tink :)

THRVGloryB: Pashie, Honey acts so innocent, doesn't she?

Tnkrbell77: Hugs to ya Pashun!

THRVPashun: yes she does....but don't buy it, Glory :)

THRVGloryB: But we all know there is a reason she is on the BOTTOM during chats.

THRVHoney: heheeh Pash knows that I AM!

Tnkrbell77: rotfl

THRVPashun: I do? :) hahah

THRVHoney: <~~~~likes the bottom! SOMETIMES!

THRVGloryB: Honey gives good bottom!

THRVPashun: hahaha

Tnkrbell77: oh my

THRVGloryB: Welcome, This is our lively little bdsm hour. More perversions than you can shake a crop at.

THRVPashun: Folks please feel free to ask your questions by typing a "?" and making a comment by typing a "!". Honey Pie will call on you in order

THRVHoney: Anyhoo, anyone with a question please type in your "?" and "!" for any comments and I will call on you ......:-)

THRVGloryB: Yes, folks. Please don't be shy. Lord knows we're not. :-)

THRVPashun: I see many new faces here tonight, Glory :)

THRVGloryB: Je vois Guest3. Mais aucun chat.

Guest 2: The curious come to gawk, Pashun...~smile~

THRVGloryB: Guest2, aha! A voyeur! :-)

Guest 3: bonjour, glory

Guest 2: ~laughing~ tonight, yes.

THRVHoney: <~~~Prefers english

THRVGloryB: Bonsoir, Guest3. D'ou venez vous?

Guest 4: good evening everyone.

THRVPashun: French can be so very....ummm... nice :)

THRVHoney: Hiya Guest4!

THRVGloryB: Hi, Guest4. Welcome to The Dark Hour. :-)

Guest 2: Yes it can, Pashun :)

THRVGloryB: Isn't it romantic?

THRVPashun: oui ;)

THRVGloryB: I would love to dominate someone en francais! "Salope!"

Guest 2: t lends itself well to passion and love

Guest 4: thank you. I'm a newbie to this area.

THRVGloryB: Newbies are warmly invited to jump right in.

Guest 3: ?

THRVHoney: Guest4, do you have a question or comment for Glory?

THRVGloryB: Just loosen your chastity belt and cozy up to the stage.

THRVHoney: Guest3, you have a question?

THRVGloryB: Guest3?

Guest 4: not at this point Honey.

THRVHoney: Ok, Guest4.....:-)

Guest 3: yes, I have a question. what is the possibility of doing serious damage to the penis with a KTB

THRVGloryB: We won't bite. At least not without your consent. ;-)

THRVHoney: LOL.....Glory

THRVGloryB: KTB? I don't know the term, Guest3.

Guest 4: thanks for the warm welcome Glory!

Guest 3: I may have it reversed, a KBT

Tnkrbell77: CBT?

Guest 3: no, KTB

Tnkrbell77: <---stumped

Guest 5: Hi everyone. :)

THRVGloryB: What do the initials stand for, Guest3. Perhaps I know the longer term for it.

THRVGloryB: Guest5!! Welcome!

Guest 5: Hi Glory.

THRVPashun: hiya Guest 5:)

Tnkrbell77: Hi Guest5

Guest 4: good evening Guest5

THRVGloryB: Tink...is that stumped...or STOMPED?

Guest 5: Hi Pashun, Tink, Guest4

Tnkrbell77: Hmm... stomped with your new shoes? :-)

Guest 3: lol, now there is a good question glory, it is a device that goes around the penis with "teeth" in it to control erections

Tnkrbell77: whew teeth

THRVGloryB: Oh my, Guest3! There are so many of those! :-)

Guest 2: ~grin~ That would be me. And no I don't cause damage.

THRVGloryB: Tink--keep dreaming. ;-)

Guest 1: very funny, Desire... (muttering under breath)

THRVGloryB: Well, Guest3--as long as you don't get erect, you aren't in trouble, right? :-) However, if you should, the teeth in such devices...(also known as "gloves"--"genital gloves," "ball gloves," etc.) are *usually* fairly short. Much shorter, say, than the point on a thumbtack.

Guest 2: ~looking away with an innocent smile firmly in place~

Guest 5: Hi Guest6! :)

Guest 3: lol, I never get erect, (femme sans penis) but my sub wants to used it and I am a bit concerned about the safety aspect

Guest 6: hi, Guest5

THRVHoney: Anyone with a question, please type in your "?" or "!" for any comments and I will call on you....:-) Que is wide open!

THRVGloryB: You risk piercing tiny holes in the skin of the penis...pin pricks, really. If the "teeth" are any longer (i.e., so long that they can penetrate... into the penis, the risk becomes much greater.) But I've never seen any (available commercially) with really long teeth.

Guest 2: ?

THRVHoney: Guest2, you may ask your question.

THRVGloryB: Guest3, does that help?

Guest 2: Other than the danger from moving too fast, untrimmed nails...any "real" risks with vaginal fisting?

Guest 3: yes, thank you

THRVGloryB: Guest2, the first issue, always, is the safe sex one, i.e., eliminating... any risk of STDs. If you or your partner are not 100% certain... you both are HIV-, if you're casual partners, or new acquaintances... etc., then I STRONGLY advise you use a latex glove.

Guest 2: covered...

THRVGloryB: Although the risk is small, there IS a real risk in transmitting...the AIDS virus if, say, there are any tiny abrasions/cuts around your cuticles, on your fingers, etc.

Guest 2: Other than that?

THRVGloryB: Well, Guest2, then no. Obviously, you need to keep basic safety in mind... as you mention, trimming long nails, and being careful not to... harm vaginal tissue with excessive force.

Guest 2: ~nodding~ Cuz...that would be bad :)

THRVGloryB: Also, the vagina can take a bit of stretching, but it has to be built up to...very slowly. If you're a mature person who understands a woman's body...then, no, there are no special precautions to take (except for the safe sex ones).

Guest 2: I was actually concerned about something a friend heard on AOL re: "air entering the cervix"

THRVGloryB: DN, not from fisting.

Guest 2: <~ tends not to give credence to such things :) but always follows up. Thanks for answering my ?

THRVGloryB: Fisting, if performed sensually and carefully, should not present...any more dangers than intercourse.

Guest 2: Terrific ~smile~

Guest 1: ?

THRVGloryB: Gynecologists routinely "fist" patients (if you wish to look at it that way ).

THRVHoney: Guest1, you may ask your question

Guest 2: Oh..ya really do know how to spoil a nice hobby Glory ~laffin~

THRVHoney: :::::Thinking:::::OUCH!

THRVGloryB: Guest2, what?! Can't you eroticize a medical scenario? :-)

Guest 1: The topic of 'leatherbutt' came up recently. Do you have any tips to share on how to prevent it? Also, is this more common than we might think among long-term players because it is not often talked about?

Guest 2: ~squicked expression~ Not my twist, I'm afraid :)

THRVGloryB: "Come here, little girl, and let Doctor Guest2 have a look at you!"

Guest 2: ~laughing~ For you... I might make an exception

THRVGloryB: Guest1, boy, the Net is creating a whole new lingo! :-) LEATHERBUTT?

Guest 1: ::laughing:: Hey, get with it!

THRVGloryB: I presume this is the tragic condition which results...from TOO MANY spankings?

Guest 1: correct or with an implement that causes more tissue damage like a cane.

THRVGloryB: Or is it a gay thing? :-)

Guest 2: lol

Tnkrbell77: <---taking down pants and checking for leatherbutt

Guest 1:

THRVGloryB: Ooooh! He's groaning!

Guest 2: ~noting that nerve damage = leatherbutt~

Guest 1: that was a 'bad' joke pain

Guest 6: Tnk....pull your pants back up we weren't ready for that!!!!

Tnkrbell77: ok

THRVPashun: Guest6....speak for yourself dear :) hahah

THRVGloryB: Tink, you should worry more about leatherpenis.

Tnkrbell77: oops

Guest 6: LOL...sorry Glory...but I wasn't expecting it

THRVGloryB: Guest6! You snuck in!

Guest 6: hi, Glory i'm quiet tonight

THRVPashun: hugs and smooches, Guest 6:)

THRVGloryB: Okay, frankly, I've never heard of ANYONE developing this "leatherbutt" condition. Some of my best pals have been a-whippin' and a -spanking for DECADES... First off, the butt is not exactly a major nerve center with...lots of delicate tissue. Indeed, the butt is the choice of perverts worldwide... precisely because that fleshy tissue can take tremendous abuse... without permanent or long-term damage. No other area of the body...is as resilient.

Guest 2: ~sittin' quietly, then~

Guest 6: that's what I was wondering...I heard of "it" but never known anyone that developed it

THRVGloryB: Some people may describe themselves that way because they have a high tolerance to pain. Or a mental block against it. Again...a man I used to dominate...had a fetish for the cane. He liked to be beaten brutally, for hours at a time... until he was swollen and bloody. That was his trip.

Guest 6: I find my tolerance depends on my mood

Guest 5: Mine, too, Guest6.

THRVGloryB: He never developed any long-term resistence to the pain. He still need slow, gentle stimulus at the beginning, graduating... slowly to the hard pain. Again, this is specifically and uniquely...

Guest 1: This is wonderful to hear, Glory

THRVHoney: Hiya, Guest7!!!

THRVGloryB: the fleshy globes of the buttocks. Unless you're working on... a very VERY thin person, with little or no fat there...it should pose no danger. With a very thin person, you may risk...hitting bone. That is an immediate STOP.

Guest 7: Hello

THRVGloryB: Hiya, Guest7.

THRVHoney: Anyone with a question, please type in your "?" or "!" for any comments and I will call on you....:-)

THRVGloryB: Guest6, that's a very good point!

THRVHoney: Que is wide open!

THRVGloryB: Guest5 & Guest6...does your tolerance vary over a wide range?

Guest 6: I know mine does, Glory

THRVGloryB: Are there times you love it hard, and times even light is too much?

Guest 5: Mine does, yes.

Guest 7: Yes

Guest 6: times when light makes me cry real tears, which I don't normally do no matter what's going on

Guest 1: Thanks for the answer, glory. I need to leave for awhile but I'll be sure to be a regular here.

Guest 5: It's not so much what I want, but what I can tolerate. I'd always like it hard...but sometimes I can't deal with that.

THRVGloryB: Thanks, Guest1! I'll look forward to seeing you again. Guest6, are they tears of pain? Guest5...is it related to mood? To menstruation?

Guest 2: !

THRVHoney: Guest2, you have a comment?

Guest 2: I find that fatigue and stress contribute to those levels. (tryin' so hard to be well-behaved ~grin~)

Guest 5: Menstruation definitely. Mood also, I think. When I'm tired I can't take as much.

Guest 6: that's hard to answer, Glory....cause the pain I love too....but when I'm in one of those moods I find I want it to end very quickly....I can be shedding tears of joy & never want it to end

THRVGloryB: Tink, how about you?

Tnkrbell77: I think the environment...how fast it begins.. whether I am bound or not and maybe a couple of other variables.

THRVHoney: Anyone with a question, please type in your "?" or "!" for any comments and I will call on you....:-) Que is wide open!

THRVGloryB: So when do you all feel you are in the best possible frame of mind...for an intensely pleasurable hard spanking?

Guest 8: Hello

Guest 7: ?

Guest 2: When the foreplay began at breakfast and the pleasure "curve" stays just ahead of the "pain"

THRVGloryB: Can you ever just flip into that mood, or do you have to be psyched for it?

THRVHoney: Guest7, you may ask your question!

Guest 5: I'm almost always in that mood.

Tnkrbell77: When I am turned on! :-)

Guest 7: I'm new to this, I have a pretty good idea of the topic but I just signed on and need to be briefed!

THRVGloryB: Tink, isn't that somewhat like the chicken and the egg?

Guest 6: I'm usually in that mood

Tnkrbell77: oops.. I'm afraid you're right.

THRVGloryB: Guest7...we're talking about tolerance to pain/hard spankings.

Guest 2: I think that "mood" contributes, but speed often does, too.

THRVGloryB: A spanking turns you on...or you're turned on, ergo you want a spanking?

Guest 7: oh, ok

THRVGloryB: Speed, Guest2? Do fast spankings hurt more?

Guest 2: Very slow, for me.. gets me much farther "into" it. Meant time wise, Glory. Spankings I'm not expecting hurt more

Tnkrbell77: Time between strokes allows one to recover to take the next one.

THRVGloryB: So, Guest5., if you're always in the mood...then you think it's purely a physical...thing when you can't take as much pain? Has anyone here ever had the experience of feeling that...a spanking or some other pain they're getting..maybe even something.. they ordinarily love...suddenly feels "wrong." Not morally wrong, but emotionally wrong.

Guest 5: I think it has to do with horomones and fatigue. Or sometimes if I'm emotional for some reason. I've never had that experience.

Guest 2: Yes.

THRVGloryB: You know... like "good spank, bad spank." :-) Guest2, would you care to share it with us?

THRVHoney: Hiya, Guest9 Anyone with a question, please type in your "?" or "!" for any comments and I will call on you....:-)

Guest 6: depends on who's giving it to me, Glory

THRVGloryB: Hello, Guest9. Welcome. Ah! Yes, that's an interesting point, Guest6. Does the dom have to be someone you care about?

Guest 6: at least someone I respect & that I feel respects me, know what I mean?

Guest 2: Sure, Glory... it's happened both with someone I thought I wanted to be with and then didn't. And also within a LTR, just suddenly realizing I was not "into" it.

Guest 6: when I feel I'm being used in a bad way....I feel bad about it

THRVGloryB: (And speaking of doms you care about...where's your Master tonight, Guest6?)

Guest 2: And I feel that it's really a bad idea to continue in either situation

Guest 6: we both went out tonight, Glory....he must still be out

THRVGloryB: Guest2, was it troubling for you to "suddenly realize" you weren't into it? Oh, those whimisical dominants! ;-)

Guest 2: Yes. I truly didn't want to disappoint but it was just...irritating not erotic

THRVGloryB: Irritating is a good word, Guest2. Have any other subs ever felt that?

Guest 2: It's always amazing to me how "mindset" can affect the very same act that was mindblowing before.

THRVGloryB: Guest2--are you familiar with the term "resistence"?

Guest 5: Irritated at what is happening, or irritated at the Dom in general? :)

THRVGloryB: Guest5, either.

Guest 2: In a kink context..no irritated, in general. At no one/nothing specific Just "out of flow", so to speak

THRVGloryB: It's interesting, because resistance used to be a very popular topic in SM circles...but I seldom see it discussed on the Net.

Guest 2: being "in flow" is very important to me.

Guest 5: I never get irritated. LOL!

Tnkrbell77: <--doesn't get irritated either.

Guest 9: I do sometimes....

THRVGloryB: Basically, it is more or less what you describe. A sub is with a dom... doing something they thought/knew they wanted before they began...and suddenly, for reasons difficult to explain, the sub experiences... an "inappropriate" reaction--laughing, shutting down emotionally... breaking out of role, even becoming very angry and tense.

Guest 2: ~nodding~

Guest 5: So do I, Guest9. (Was being slightly sarcastic)

THRVGloryB: We call it resistence because for some reason the sub...suddenly is resisting something in the situation--it's a moment when s/he or may question the dom's "real" authority over him/her or when an old wound (or abuse memory), or feelings of guilt/shame suddenly make the whole thing feel "wrong."

Guest 2: For me it's like...ordering a steak... and then realizing I only really want a salad :)

Guest 9: Never satisfied huh?

Guest 5: That *has* happened for me before, Glory. At least once.

Guest 2: Hmm...interesting.

THRVGloryB: Guest9! :-) Guest5, it's the rare sub who doesn't experience that. Among sincere subs, I mean.

Guest 9: Glory! ;)

Guest 2: for me, I think it's just the stress in life still lingering combined with my partner perhaps moving too fast because I've failed to communicate that well.

THRVGloryB: Guest2, but what about later? Did you want another steak at another time? :-)

Guest 2: Oh yes. The whole steer, Glory. It's momentary. Except once. And that was a looong time ago.

THRVGloryB: AHA! :-)

Guest 2: <~ glad I trusted my gut. I'm sure he was not the one for me.

THRVGloryB: Dr. Glory, Psychic Sexologist here. :-)

Guest 2: lol

THRVHoney: Oh LOL

Guest 2: Usually the "out of flow" thing happens when I'm behind in work/life/etc.

THRVGloryB: Guest2, I think that when it's really a case of just losing interest in your dom...

Guest 9: OK Dr. Glory what do you think about women who have affairs???

THRVGloryB: well, I wouldn't call that resistance. Possible "wising up." :-)

Guest 2: ~smile~ I think so, too

THRVGloryB: Have affairs...or lie about them?

Guest 9: Who can't get enough of men but love there hubbys?

THRVGloryB: But I am still wondering how and why you'd lose interest in the midst of a Scene.

Guest 9: Lie to who??

THRVGloryB: Guest9--I guess I draw a line between sleeping around and lying about doing it.

Guest 2: "midst"? no.....beginning, yes.

THRVGloryB: If you love your hubby, and he accepts your need for other men, cool. If you have to lie to him to do it, then I don't feel too good about that. I really believe honesty & consent are the way to go, in all relationships.

Guest 2: ?

THRVHoney: Guest2, you may ask your question

Guest 9: I don't have to lie he never asks too busy with his girlfriend

THRVPashun: ahhh the plot thickens

Guest 2: Thank you.. :) I was discussing the "consent" aspect with my partner a few days ago... At the beginning.. there is no way I would have consented to anything.

THRVGloryB: Guest9, are you guys doing BDSM?

Guest 9: oh please honesty and consent this is the 90's....affairs are so much easier! I would love to be but he is on the skiddish side

Guest 6: when did honesty go out of style?

Guest 2: I was...coaxed..kind of.

THRVGloryB: Guest9, I'm afraid we bdsm'ers tend to be a bit more conservative that way.

Guest 5: Honesty is vital!

THRVGloryB: We're a little morally stuffy. Hahahahaha. But it's true! Guest2, you were coaxed?

Tnkrbell77: Morally stuffy perverts.

Guest 2: yeah...

Guest 9: lol

Guest 2: I'm not stuffy. I'm ethical And I don't believe it's out of "style"

THRVGloryB: Yep--we'll hog tie people and whip them, but we won't lie to them. :-)

THRVHoney: LOL.....Glory

Tnkrbell77: <--is transparant to his Mistress.

Tnkrbell77: <---prefers to be hog tied and whipped than lie. :-)

Guest 2: <~ rotten memory, so doesn't even try to lie :)

THRVGloryB: Tink--evanescent.

THRVGloryB: Guest2, I gather the coaxing has worked out well? :-) Did you know you wanted bdsm in your life?

Guest 2: Yes, it has Glory, and no, I had no clue what "bdsm" meant

THRVGloryB: Did you have those kinds of fantasies before you met yr. partner?

Guest 2: Hmm..the usual adolescent victorian "stuff" :)but that was a few years before the coaxing began

THRVGloryB: Tink, did you have to be coaxed into bdsm?

THRVGloryB: <--still coaxing him

Guest 2: lol.. it just occured to me that perhaps it wasn't "usual" for others... I'll have to ask around

Tnkrbell77: No.

Guest 2: My question/comment really was the "consent" thang. Everyone seems to into full disclosure and upfront negotiations and "consent"

THRVGloryB: And what about that thang? :-)

Guest 2: There was no way... that I would have even begun to consent, had it been presented that way

THRVGloryB: Absolutely, Guest2 . All serious players work hard to cover that moral territory. D&S can be the absolute height of eroticism...or it can be emotionally devastating...it's a dom's responsibility to make sure s/he follows the first path. Hurting a sub's feelings, in my opinion, is almost worse than hurting him physically.

THRVPashun: Folks, I am sorry to say that our time is up for the evening :(

Guest 2: <~ happy to say that while I did not "consent".. I was well tended to.

Guest 5: Boy, that went fast.

Guest 6: nite everyone....thanks Glory, Pashun & Honey....I enjoyed it as usual

THRVHoney: awwww, but, but, Pashun!!!!

Guest 2: Dream well, all.

THRVGloryB: It's over? Already!

THRVPashun: Thank you all for you insightful questions and comments :) Yes, Glory :*(

THRVGloryB: Thanks for joining us, Guest2, and everyone else!

Tnkrbell77: <--checking clock in disbelief

Guest 2: Glory, thank you :)

THRVGloryB: Awww, Pashie...don't cry.

Guest 5: Goodnight everyone. Great chat!

THRVGloryB: Guest6, big kiss to you & to your Master. Tell him from me that he was a naughty boy. :-)

THRVHoney: Night, Glory Pie, Pash Pie! XOXOXOXOXOXOX

THRVGloryB: G'dnight all! Big smooooooooooooooch all around!

THRVPashun: Glory, as always I love our time together ;)

THRVGloryB: Bye! ************ poooof ************