TOPICS

Nipple Clamps
Bondage Safety
Being a Sub and Being into Pain/Bondage
Crying After Punishment
Blindfold Safety
Stepping out of a Dom/Sub Relationship
Is a Dom/Sub Relationship a 24/7 One
Power Dynamics Between a Dom and Sub
How Does a Sub Maintain His/Her Own Level of Self Confidence
Finding a Sub Mentor

THRVGloryB: Hello all master, mistresses, and depraved sluts. Nice to see you. (particularly the depraved sluts)

THRVPashun: hugs and kisses all! :O)

Guest 5: Hi Glory.

THRVGloryB: Buja, did you faint on me?

Guest 4: mmm...depraved sluts, why do I love that description?

THRVGloryB: Because it's so....descriptive, Guest4?

Guest 3: sluts and pervs? in the same room? ....gasp

Guest 5: Hi Buja, Pashun.

THRVGloryB: Miss Glory? Sounds like a Sunday School teacher!

THRVPashun: hello Guest 5:)

Guest 2: LOL

Guest 3: oh good Guest5 is here for true confessions LOL

THRVGloryB: Buja doesn't seem to be in the room. Buja has left the building!

Guest 5: (Be good, Guest3 )

Guest 7: He never made it best I can tell

THRVGloryB: Oh! That means I'm the only to discipline myself up here?! (rubbing hands!) Good Lord, there's just no telling WHAT might happen! Sometimes I scare myself.

Guest 3: LOL Guest5

THRVPashun: Guess I get to top from the bottom?:) hahah

Guest 8: evening everybody, Hiya Glory, Pashun :-) Long time no see.

THRVPashun: oh boy!! :)

THRVGloryB: Hey, Guest8!

THRVPashun: and Guest9! :)

THRVPashun: {{{Tnk}}}

Guest 8: Between work and computer crashes - I sure have missed you folks.

THRVGloryB: Gosh, this is so exciting! Being up here all by myself. Why...I could do ANYTHING!

THRVPashun: LOL :)

Guest 9: Hi pash, Glory...and..did we lose Buja?

Guest 7: ANYTHING??? ::PERK::

Guest 5: Hi Tink. :)

Guest 8: and will no doubt

THRVGloryB: Of course (peering around room) I would need some volunteers for me to do anything *TO*.

THRVBuja: Hi everyone. Sorry I'm late --- I keep getting booted :(

THRVPashun: Hiya Buja! ;)

THRVGloryB: Buja, some people enjoy being booted. Especially by MOI.

THRVBuja: Ooo, what did I miss?! ;)

Guest 9: and Buja saves the day again.

Guest 3: After describing your breasts last week I think you are ready for most anything

Tnkrbell77: <---likes being booted by Mistress. :-)

Guest 4: we were watching Glory get "loose"

THRVGloryB: Guest3, now now, I didn't describe them. I merely provided the details of my bra size. Never ONCE did I say a word about my lovely petal- pink nipples. NOT ONCE. Right, Buja?

Guest 4: petal pink??? mine are more of the darker variety

THRVBuja: Right -- not a word from you *or* me :) Moving right along....

Guest 6: <--- my favorite color !!

THRVGloryB: I should hope not from yours! I'd have to start worrying... that you were spending too much time on WEB-TV!

Guest 3: My fav color is ....nipple

Guest 2: speaking of nipples.......... ?

THRVBuja: So, who has the first question *not* about Gloria's breasts?

THRVGloryB: Tink! How nice of you to show up. And on time, too! Imagine that!

Guest 1: :::looking at chest::: hmmm whatcha know....petal pink is a lovely way to describe the color of mine too

THRVGloryB: Yes, Guest2? Our first question for the night?

Tnkrbell77: <--is on time Imagine that!!!!!

THRVGloryB: (Wow! The whole darn Nipple Contingent is speaking up!)

Guest 4: LOL...we all love our nipples, Glory

Guest 2: Ms Glory do You prefer clamps with "teeth" or none

THRVGloryB: We may reach one of my hard limits, however, if y'all start telling me that you've named your breasts. (shudder)

THRVBuja: Rolling my eyes, thinking about how I keep describing this as a "high- level educational experience" :)

THRVPashun: LOL

THRVGloryB: Buja! This is a very healthful experience for us all! It's therapeutic!

Guest 10: Hello, Glory. Hello all. :)

THRVGloryB: Guest2--back to toothy clamps... personally I prefer them without because I'm always concerned about tearing flesh.

THRVBuja: Will you volunteer to tell Steve Case that? :) Concerned? ;)

THRVPashun: hi Guest10, great to see you again :)

THRVGloryB: Buja--personally! Well,some people do like a little bit of the play- piercing effect that vicious clamps with teeth can inflict. Whereas I don't. A simple matter of tastes. (giving Guest4 a stern look from on high)

Guest 11: !

THRVPashun: go ahead with your comment, Guest 11:)

Guest 3: LOL

Guest 6: Like jumper cable clamps ?

Guest 11: I have found a median. clamps with teeth that are not too....clampy they don't tear skin unless really jerked, and even then usually pop off instead of course, that does hurt, a bit.

THRVGloryB: My opinion on the use of pain is that you really can't set one standard and stick to it. It's always a question of understanding your partners needs and limits. Guest11, how long do you leave them on?

Guest 4: oops...sorry, Glory (ya know I'll be driving through there this Fri)

Guest 2: <---I can attest...they do hurt :-)

THRVGloryB: I am sure they do, Guest2. :-)

Guest 11: generally only 10 or 15 min. enough to get the blood out.

Guest 12: um...pardon? but what ..kind of clamps are we talking...???

THRVGloryB: Guest12, clamps with teeth (like alligator clips) v. clamps without.

Guest 4: !

THRVPashun: go ahead Guest 4:)

Guest 12: ah! hmm..had lighter ones for the first time...a few days ago...!

Guest 4: ya know...I feel lucky...I had someone when I was first exploring on my own that left japanese clovers on me for over 5 hours off & on but now I hate clamps

Guest 7: Isn't 15 min a general thumb rule for max time with them on tight?

THRVGloryB: Not necessarily. Depends on your slave's sensitivity. Also gender.

Guest 1: !

THRVPashun: go right ahead Guest1 ;)

Guest 7: thought it was a blood flow issue not sensitivity Glory

THRVBuja: Glory, isn't there a question of making sure not to prevent blood flow for TOO long?

Guest 7: thanks Buja

Guest 1: Just the other night I had clamp on for 15 in. and I could have taken at least another 20 min or so...I think it depends on the type of clamp as well.. they were not numb.... I'll tell you that much....

THRVGloryB: Yes, agreed. You have to keep checking if you keep them on for a longer period. If the nipples grow numb, it's time to take them off.

Guest 10: You might be able to stand the pain, and the tissue die.

THRVBuja: Wouldn't want gangrene on the nipples :)

THRVGloryB: Guest10, it isn't the slave's tolerance. That actually goes up if the nipple gets numb! That's also the danger zone. Same applies to rope bondage. You must continually check extremities Numbness always means you have to STOP as soon as possible.

Guest 10: Exactly. I DO feel sorry for Arden, Glory. ;-) Oh, and Tink, too.

Guest 3: <---- tortures nipples the old fashioned way. Pinching

Guest 6: <-- hates when nipple comes off with clamp !!

Guest 4: Guest10...a few mins is enough for me now
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Guest 12: yes! me too Guest4

Guest 7: so do nipples classify as extremities???

Guest 2: LOL

THRVGloryB: I'm sure everyone here knows to keep scissors or a knife at hand... to cut ropes at a moment's notice, right?

THRVPashun: Who would like to ask the next question?:)

Guest 1: for some I think they do...it depends on the Submissive...

Guest 3: how big are the nipples... over 3 inches is extreme...oh you said extremities

THRVGloryB: Guest10, why feel sorry for Arden? Tink I can understand. ;-) Do nipples qualify as extremities? For these purposes, yes.

Tnkrbell77: I don't feel sorry for Arden at all!!!

Guest 1: well...I think You should make sure that the person You submit to has a clue

THRVGloryB: Anything that you put in a form of bondage (a clamp is a type of bondage, bondage through compression)... must be checked frequently while you're playing. That includes eyes too (for those who use blindfolds).

Guest 12: ?

THRVPashun: go right ahead Guest 12:)

Tnkrbell77: <---likes the NEW clamps. :-)

Guest 12: thank you. OK Glory. I did not get into being a sub because I am not into pain or bondage necessarily. ..does ..this change?

THRVGloryB: Pashun, I think I've provoked a nipple frenzy.

Guest 5: New clamps?

Tnkrbell77: They are very painful. Geust5... you know the ones.

THRVGloryB: Which new clamps, tink?

THRVPashun: I see that! :)

Guest 5: Which ones, Tink?

Guest 3: Guest5, ain't talking LOL

Tnkrbell77: The ones which you hold in each hand. and control with your thumb.

THRVGloryB: Guest5 is now asking Tink a very vital question. ;-) She knows that if there's some cruel new piece of equipment here.. her Master may want her to say hello to it.

Guest 3: I like using those Tink

Guest 1: ?

THRVGloryB: Oh those evil things! They aren't really clamps!

Guest 5: I think they've already said hello to me, Glory.

Guest 4: now....Glory,...if you could provoke a clit frenzy when I'm in Fl...I'd be grateful

THRVGloryB: I believe so, Guest5. :-) Guest4, I have been known to provoke all KINDS of things.

Guest 4: LOL..I do like that answer

Guest 10: Actually, Arden is a lucky soul. :)

THRVGloryB: Guest12, are you asking whether over time you will come to enjoy pain and bondage?

Guest 3: Glory she just wants me to finish the flogger I was making when she was here

Guest 12: yes. most I talk to say that is true I am well, scared of it now

Guest 4: course when I'm there I can usually provoke some kinda response

THRVGloryB: Are you afraid of the physical pain? Personally, I think that if a person truly does not have it in him or her to eroticize pain, s/he's unlikely to just develop the appetite. HOWEVER...for me pain is so inextricable from D&S/SM,

Guest 12: I was punished by a flogging and every time I thought about it the next day...I cried

Guest 4: Guest12, why were you crying? From the pain or from the fact you needed punishment?

Guest 12: I am not sure. I was terrified when it was done. It was my first time..

Guest 3: Guest12, did you know why you were being punished?

THRVGloryB: Good question, Guest4!

Guest 12: not pain. no. I deserved it! ;-) yes

Guest 4: so the pain wasn't a factor?

THRVGloryB: Guest12, I think we're all wondering where the emotional pain came from.

Guest 12: ok. thank you. and well, maybe a bit. I am not sure. could it be just that I had never done that before

Guest 4: what made you cry?

THRVGloryB: Guest12, what were you feeling when you were crying?

Guest 4: if it was because you needed to be punished...well, hell, you're as "normal as all of us

Guest 12: scared. not about my Dom. But just the action of the flogger

Guest 4: Guest12...you felt bad cause you'd made him have to punish you?

Guest 12: hmm...maybe !

THRVGloryB: Guest12, how did you feel WHILE it was happening?

Guest 13: ?

Guest 12: terrible that I had to be punished, and ..maybe it was the first time?

Guest 1: I was once cried because I forgot to buy something my Ma'am asked me to.....and I forgot. I cried because I disappointed her

THRVGloryB: My feeling is that if, during the flogging, you were able to eroticize it... or got the feeling that you were being justly punished... then the feelings you had afterwards were not your *real* feelings... but perhaps your fears and anxieties speaking.

Guest 4: Guest12...I cry when I know that I have punishment coming...not necessarily when I receive it

THRVGloryB: This is very normal for a submissive.

Guest 12: ok. thank you. I also ..had breast clamps but did not feel the same way as the flogging Thanks. I was worried. this is all so new to me ;-)

Guest 3: A submissive punishes themselves more than the physical pain of the punishment I think

Guest 1: Don't worry Guest12... I cry over things all the time...after the fact Why? I do not know

THRVGloryB: No, don't worry. I agree completely, Guest3. Subs expect themselves to be perfect. Whereas everyone knows...it's just we doms who are perfect. ;-)

THRVPashun: Guest1, please go ahead with your question :)

Guest 12: oh!! is that it! Lol

Guest 3: Yes Glory

Guest 13: So do Dom/Dommes

Guest 1: maybe because you think about what others may think about You know Ms. Glory you were talking about blindfolds earlier. After I took a blindfold off last time I had double vision does that fit into what You were talking about earlier?

THRVGloryB: Guest13! lol! Guest1, that is not a good thing. Yes, it is. Although blindfolds seem entirely harmless, they are NOT. Even with something so tame, you must always be sure that the blindfold isn't pressing too hard on the eyeball. Prolonged pressure to the optic nerve will cause double vision, blurred vision, and other problems.

THRVBuja: And be sure to remove contacts beforehand!

Guest 1: Yipe.... AAAhhh there would be the problem...contacts...

Guest 3: Guest1 was it a silk blindfold?

Guest 12: take off my glasses and I am blind! ;-)

THRVGloryB: Yikes! No contacts under a tight blindfold! Ever!

THRVBuja: Guest12, well then you won't need the blindfold :)

THRVPashun: Guest12, then you wouldn't need blindfolds! ;) Hahah

Guest 1: it was a bit tight on my eye...

Guest 12: lol. try to tell my Dom that!!!

THRVGloryB: Guest1, you need to let your dom know.

Guest 1: I told them at once...and they took care of me...:-)

Guest 14: Guest1... if that happens, tell your Dominant right away!!

THRVGloryB: Guest1, is your dom using a padded or lined blindfold?

Tnkrbell77: I think we are topicless.

Guest 6: ?

Guest 1: no....it was a scarf

THRVPashun: Guest, you will be after Guest 13:)

Guest 5: Is that a word, Tink? :)

THRVGloryB: I recommend cushioned blindfolds. They will pillow the eyeball, unlike leather or fabric.

Tnkrbell77: I think I just invented it.

THRVBuja: They also block light better :)

Guest 3: Guest1 a leather one with rabbit fur prolly wouldn't do that. silk tightens

Guest 4: ?

THRVGloryB: A scarf is sexy but it isn't as safe as a cushioned blindfold.

Guest 5: I thought so. :)

Guest 1: it was a last minute thing.... they saw me get nervous and put it on because they know it relaxes me

THRVGloryB: With the cushioned kind, you can tighten the leather strap around the skull.. without adding too much pressure to the eyepads.

THRVPashun: tee hee... Sorry Guest3, that just tickled me :)

Guest 3: heh heh Pashun. rabbit fur always tickles

THRVPashun: ohh I know :)

Guest 12: ohh that sounds nice

THRVGloryB: Especially when it's rubbed over shaved genitals, right Guest3?

Tnkrbell77: Being blindfolded increases the feeling of vulnerability (to me)

Guest 3: LOL Glory we use mink for that LOL

THRVGloryB: Guest4--has your frenzy begun yet? Ha! I am not going to use MY mink for that! Bunny's good enough.

THRVPashun: Guest13..please go ahead with your question :)

Guest 4: ummm....sub frenzy?

Guest 12: Oh!! finally something to use my grandmas old mink stoll for.!!

Guest 13: Okay.. I have been playing with a friend of mine.. and I have grown quite close to But.. how do I step back and get rid of those feelings? Which I need to

THRVGloryB: Which feelings do you want to get rid of?

Guest 1: Yikes Guest13

THRVBuja: And, why do you need to?

Guest 13: The feeling of Wow.. he is someone that I truly could be with for LTR Because he likes to play with others.. and I am greedy And I don't want to take that away from him

Guest 4: how does your friend feel?

Guest 12: hmm..kind of like me..well..should anyway oh no! Guest13.. sounds like my situation!

THRVGloryB: So you're afraid you'll get hurt?

Guest 13: Yes.. very much so

Guest 4: aren't we all, Glory?

Guest 5: Tough question.

Guest 3: desires have to match

Guest 1: Hmmm..Guest13, it sounds like you are already hurt...

Guest 7: Naaaaaa she's in LOVE

Guest 12: or..the ability to be LTR....

THRVGloryB: Guest4, yes, I suppose we are. But we can't be ruled by our fears.

Guest 4: OMG...did you have to say that, Glory?

Guest 3: Thank you for that comment Glory

Guest 12: Thank you Glory! I needed that !!!

Guest 13: Yes... I realize this... and I don't want to be ruled by it Therefore I want to step back and assess

THRVGloryB: I'm a firm believer in "no risk, no reward." Guest14--let's ask you: do you already get depressed about his

Guest 4: but...to risk is soooo scary

Guest 12: yes

THRVGloryB: unwillingness to commit to one person monogamously?

Guest 13: No not depressed.. just accepted the fact But still care for him deeply

Guest 14: Sometimes, scary can be exciting...

Guest 3: losing is always easy........ it is what makes a good loser

Guest 12: I will remember that Guest14.

Guest 13: Did not eat all the ice cream in the fridge :) Therefore I am not depressed :)

Guest 4: true, losing doesn't hurt like reaching for the top

THRVGloryB: Okay, Guest14, then let me ask another question... why are you accepting it if it isn't what you want?

Guest 1: :::giggling:::::

Guest 15: ?

Guest 12: oy. I dont like that one!

Guest 16: good question :-)

Guest 13: Because... I can accept the things I can not change at this time

THRVGloryB: Heh, Guest12. That's the hard one, right?

THRVPashun: Guest115, you are on the question queue :) There are 2 before you :)

Guest 12: I like you Guest13

Guest 13: With the hope to further develop the relationship And if I don't get what I hope for.. then that is life

Guest 12: well! That's out for me!

Guest 5: Sometimes you have to give up something you want in order to get something you want. :)

THRVGloryB: Develop it further...knowing he can't or won't give you what you want?

Guest 3: Guest13 it is quite dangerous to become emotionally involved hoping to change behavior

Guest 5: Is the sacrifice worth it?

Guest 1: Setting yourself up to fail huh?

Guest 13: Oh.. I am not asking him to change..

THRVGloryB: Guest5, I think that decision is up to each individual to make.

Guest 16: She just wants to know how to step back...

Guest 13: Not at all.. I just want to know how to step back

THRVGloryB: But, Guest13--you seem like a very thoughtful woman. Maybe you deserve better than a compromise situation?

Guest 5: Absolutely, Gloria. :)

Guest 13: Yes.. I believe my momma raised me right.

Guest 12: yes, true. Well mine is married. and I know I will have to move on, but at the moment there are NO doms in this town

Guest 13: But isn't this D/s about compromise to some extent?

THRVGloryB: Guest12, statistically speaking, that just can't be. There may not be an organized SM scene near you but there are sadomasochists everywhere. We comprise 10-15% of the population. We don't all live in urban centers

Guest 4: just none you know of yet.

Guest 15: there's a big difference between compromising and the ultimate desire to please

Guest 12: there is 2 hours away. ok. maybe some need to come out of the closet then!!! Lol

THRVGloryB: Precisely, Guest12! And maybe your the one to drag one out!

Guest 4: LOL I've many in this backwater town...but the one for me is 8 hrs away

THRVGloryB: SM and D&S...these are NORMAL extensions of human sexuality. Now...whether people are aware of it in themselves is another thing.

Guest 13: ::nods to Guest 15::

Guest 14: Compromising, in MHO, shouldn't be in respect to the essentials of life, merely in the less important details

THRVGloryB: Agreed,Guest14!

Guest 12: well I was there. a little more than a month ago! Lol

THRVGloryB: I would say when one partner prefers monogamy and another polyamory... that is a fundamental problem in the relationship.

Guest 3: To step back, just move back to the friendship you had before playing and don't play

Guest 12: ?

THRVBuja: I guess that's why she wants to know how to step back :)

Guest 13: ::nods:: Most agreed...

THRVGloryB: I'm afraid I have to agree with Guest3. I too would advise that you wean yourself away from the relationship you've developed.

Guest 4: I had a radius of 200 miles...wouldn't speak to anyone seriously beyond that

Guest 3: Glory we seem to agree a lot and it IS scary LOL

Guest 14: If YOU don't get what you want, Guest13, then back up to the point where you can live with the arrangement comfortably

THRVPashun: Guest6, please go ahead with your question :)

Guest 6: Is the D&S lifestyle something that goes on 24/7 or just time limits set by those involved? Like only on weekends, one day a week?

THRVGloryB: Guest13, can you beat the cut butt without wanting to kidnap him and make him your love-toy?

Guest 13: Oh gosh... to do that I would have to become a submissive myself!!

THRVGloryB: Guest6, that's entirely up to the couple, but generally people who describe themselves as lifestylers mean that all their interactions (as a couple) are based on a power dynamic.

Guest 6: does this generally become a way of life?

THRVGloryB: That doesn't mean they're actively doing SM all the time, but the underlying power dynamic is always there, and they're always aware of it. Guest6, it can become a way of life, sure.

Tnkrbell77: <---is ALWAYS aware of the power dynamic.

Guest 6: <-- curious.

THRVGloryB: Again, don't confuse 24/7 with what you read in bad SM porn. That doesn't mean a slave is chained to a toilet 24 hrs. a day... (he should be so lucky! )...

Guest 6: thanx, Glory.

Guest 13: This is a very neat forum.. I like it.. :)

THRVPashun: Guest4, go right ahead :)

Guest 6: LOL

Guest 2: yes ms Glory.....you have to act 'nilla sometime

Guest 4: 24/7 is what the couple feels like

Guest 12: what do you mean Tnkr

THRVGloryB: it means that, at all times, he is at the beck and call (and mercy) of his Mistress.. *should she choose* to control him.

Tnkrbell77: mercy? :-)

THRVGloryB: Tink--go ahead and explain what you meant for Guest12. (Tnkrbell77: <-- -is ALWAYS aware of the power dynamic.)

Tnkrbell77: Well... whether I am with her or not... I am always aware of the power dynamic between us.... It is not something that is cut on or off.... but that doesn't mean we are doing SM things...

Guest 12: oh! thank you GloryB

Guest 4: this is gonna sound strange, but here goes....with as self confident as you Dom/mes are....how are we expected to stay as self confident as we are while serving You?

THRVGloryB: And what does that mean, in practical terms, Tink?

Tnkrbell77: The power dynamic is there regardless of what we are doing. If I am home alone.. I still think about being submissive to her... When we go out to lunch... I am submissive.

THRVGloryB: Tink, more than that: if I were to call you, at any time of the night or day... and say "I want you here now"...what would you do?

Guest 12: OH! is THAT what it is! thank you. and I mean it.

Tnkrbell77: I am at her beck and call... I would come immediately.

Guest 2: <----thinks like Tink

THRVGloryB: Guest12--it's basically this: any time I want something from Tink whether I want him to submit to bondage or go to the drugstore and pick up some cosmetics... whatever I want, I can take from him. He is always under my control. He is always obedient to my will.

Guest 16: now, this is interesting.. I love real-life stories

Guest 6: is this love or lust?

Guest 2: love

THRVPashun: sorry Guest4...just hang on a sec :)

Guest 3: Guest6 it is dominance and submission

Guest 4: that's ok

THRVGloryB: It isn't always explicit. When we're out eating dinner, we have regular conversations. Sometimes we even disagree on things (gasp!)

Guest 14: I bet you would come immediately, if she allowed you to, Tink!

Guest 16: omg...

THRVGloryB: Guest6--where do you draw the line between love and lust?

Guest 12: oh! wow. thanks you are wonderful. sorry ...did not mean to but in really

Guest 6: its a very fine line..

THRVGloryB: But let's say that, midway through the meal, I wanted to torment him. I would torment him. (Dig my heel in his groin, let's say) Poor Tink has had his penis squeezed in all the wrong (public) places. :-)

Guest 6: ouch

Guest 4: lol..don't you mean lucky Tink?

THRVGloryB: With us, I'd say it goes pretty deep. Beyond the direct SM...if I really w as annoyed with something he said over dinner... I would humble him into abject silence. :-) (Notice how the word "abject" made me smile) So that's the way we run our lifestyle.

Guest 8: ?

THRVBuja: Back to Guest4's question :)

Tnkrbell77: <----tries not to annoy Mistress.

Guest 16: sounds so much like "object" :-)

Guest 12: I bet Tnkr!

Guest 6: Thanx, Glory.

Guest 13: How long does this discussion go on?

THRVGloryB: Guest4, as to how a slave can remain confident in the face... of doms being so powerful... Think of it this way: you must be an awfully special slave to be serving so powerful and comfident a dominant.

Guest 9: not long enough Guest13, trust me : )

THRVGloryB: A really good, capable dominant is a rare individual. Just serving him (or her) speaks volumes about your own value.

Guest 4: oh my I love that answer...you are good!!

Guest 3: ^5 Glory and she is given the feeling of confidence to allow her to serve

Guest 15: <<~~ has an extremely good...capable dom ...and yes, a very rare individual ;-)

THRVGloryB: A slave should be proud of WHO s/he serves... and proud of the service s/he provides to that special dom.

Guest 12: got it!

THRVPashun: Guest15...you're turn! Please go right ahead :)

Guest 8: yep, I wouldn't have just any ordinary run-of-the mill sub.

Guest 5: <----- is VERY proud. :)

Guest 13: ::nods:: Being with a Dom or Domme is an reflection of yourself and visa versa

Guest 4: I'm so proud of who I serve that it controls my whole life

Guest 15: I have to preface this I am sort of a newbie introduced to this lifestyle back in November I really long for a sort of sub-mentor but it's so hard to find one I found this person that claimed to be one... and she is online says she is known by "all the authors, etc" well known has 22 years of experience yada yada anyway... last night I lost all respect for her....and I'm pretty disappointed at how she advertises to "HELP NEWBIES" this scares me if she's helping others

THRVGloryB: There should be joy in a slave's service. IMO.

Guest 4: oh Glory..that was what my question was about I am so proud to serve him I wanted to know how to not disappoint him I've never felt this way before

Guest 2: <---very proud to serve my Mistress

THRVGloryB: I wouldn't trust anyone who knows a lot of writers. ;-)

Guest 3: LOL LOL Glory

Tnkrbell77: (laughing)

Guest 5: <---- keeping her mouth shut. :)

Guest 12: any one that know you must be special GloryB

THRVGloryB: What happened?

Guest 15: well...I first emailed her because of a message I saw on a BB she promptly responded willing to help of course every time I logged on she immediately IM'd me. She sent out a mass email a month ago announcing being proudly collared by the man of her dreams....that he's perfect in all ways...

THRVPashun: sounds like she might be gathering info for a book ::/

THRVGloryB: First rule of thumb on-line: I would be VERY wary of anyone who advertises as a mentor. The first thing I'd want to know is who they've mentored and whether you can speak to them.

Guest 15: and that he's gonna help her with her website "to help newbies" Well I finally talked with her at some length last night online and found out in a round about way that she left this dom of her dreams because she made poor judgement and that she doesn't work because she has arthritis...but I have to wonder if she can't work (milking the system) then how does she claim to be such a mentor to BDSM? Am I making any sense?

Guest 13: What is mentoring anyway.. I have heard the term before.. but have not read any info on it

THRVPashun: Guest12 and Guest8, I am afraid we won't be able to get to your questions tonight :( But, I promise you can have the first 2 next week :)

Guest 8: not a problem :-)

THRVGloryB: Again, Guest15...please don't take that experience as representative of subs in the scene. As I said, I would not trust anyone who advertised as a mentor unless the person really was a well-known entity with some credentials.

Guest 14: I always suggest that anyone, especially online, check out any stranger's references!

Guest 16: Mentors are certain people in the scene who want to pass along their knowledge to newcomers

Guest 15: normally I wouldn't care if somebody misrepresents themselves... because they have to live with themselves...but I am making a sincere honest hard effort to try to find a sub-mentor...and I can't

THRVGloryB: Guest13, mentors are people who help you through the early stages of D&S...by relating their experiences, supporting you during crises, etc., showing you techniques, and so on.

Guest 13: Oh Thank you Guest16... I should find a Domme mentor within TES then And thank you too GloryB :)

Guest 3: Guest15 there are prolly 10 submissives in this room that would answer questions for you willingly.. you don't need someone to mentor you if you get the answers you seek

THRVBuja: Well folks, we are over time :) Yes, I know Guest9, we should make it two hours :)

Guest 14: This was my first time in this forum. Thank you, Glory.. and each of you

THRVPashun: That is so true, Guest 3:)

THRVGloryB: Guest14, just hang around conferences like these and ask questions! keep asking and listen to what EVERYONE has to say. Everyone has his/her own take on SM. Meanwhile...goodnight to all! Thanks for another great chat!!

Guest 13: Thank you GloryB.. for your time..

Guest 16: right, then make your own decisions from the info you get..

THRVBuja: Thank you Glory!

THRVGloryB: ONE FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT! DOMINA WILL BE RELEASED THIS WEEK!

THRVPashun: WOO HOO!!!!

Guest 13: Domina? is that your new book?

Guest 5: Congratulations!!

Guest 8: Hey Glory, will it be available thru AMAZON.COM?

THRVGloryB: Goodnight all! Guest8--I'll have details on my site by week's end!