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  Transcript of Different Loving Conference on AOL for 11-06-98
with Gloria Brame (THRVGloryB) and moderators THRVPashun & Honey

TOPICS

Gloria's TV Appearance
What is BDSM
Using Bondage to Heighten Sexual Pleasure
"Rules" of BDSM
Importance of Communication
Knowledge, The Power
Switching
When Your Partner Shows no Interest in a Dom/Sub Relationship

 

Guest 1: Evenin Ms Glory :-)

Guest 2: ::waving to Pashun::

THRVPashun: hiya all :)

THRVPashun: {{ Guest 2}}

THRVGloryB: Hiya, folks!

Guest 3: Hi Pashun!

Guest 6: ::waves:: hullo.

Guest 1: <--- blows a smooch to Pash

THRVPashun: hiya Guest3! :)

Guest 3: Hi Glory!

Guest 2: Missed you all last week

Guest 4: hello all

THRVPashun: smooches, Guest1 and Guest 5:) KISS KISS, Glory! :)

Guest 1: heya Guest 4

Guest 5: Hi Glory, how are you? TINK!!!

Guest 3: Hi Tink! : )

Tnkrbell77: Guest5!!

Guest 5: I'm always so glad to see you here.

Guest 1: Howdy tink :)

Tnkrbell77: hi Guest 3

THRVPashun: {{Tink**}}

THRVGloryB: Oooooh! So affectionate! (SMMMOOOOCH)

Tnkrbell77: Pashun!

THRVPashun: it's the past full moon! ;)

THRVGloryB: Not to mention the exciting events in Washington!

Guest 1: awoooo

THRVPashun: Oh yes!!!!

Guest 4: lol

Tnkrbell77: poor newt

THRVGloryB: YAY!!!!!

Guest 5: lol

THRVGloryB: tink, only you could feel sorry for a reptile Something small...low-to- the-ground....

Guest 4: ROFL

Guest 6: that depends on the reptile in question...*chuckle*

THRVPashun: LOL :)

Guest 1: he's not a reptile, he's an am-fib-ian. Lol

Tnkrbell77: yes.. but without him the repubs never would have taken the house in 94. :-)

THRVGloryB: Or lost it in '98! BTW, welcome to everyone, including our newbies. Please feel free to jump right in.

Tnkrbell77: they haven't lost it.. just a few weak reps. :-)

THRVPashun: Ladies and gents...Dom/Dommes and subbies...welcome to our BDSM and kink chat with our lovely, luscious THRVGloryB:) Please feel free to ask you questions by typing a ? and make a comment by typing a ! :)

THRVGloryB: I think we're waiting for our official question lady to show, yes? :-)

Guest 2: always feel like a newbie hehehe

Tnkrbell77: maybe he will run for president. Hehe

THRVGloryB: tink--rumor was that up to 30 Republicans said they'd never back him again in Congress. His support among his own people is dead. For now, anyway.

Guest 1: we can only hope

Guest 3: : )

Guest 6: like a lizard, grows his tail back... but I will not insult my precious scaly friends.

Tnkrbell77: yes.. the politicians.. they eat their dead.

Guest 3: LOL

Guest 4: tee hee

THRVPashun: Everyone who saw our Gloria on TV last week raise your hand!!! :)

THRVGloryB: Yep, Guest6. I couldn't help thinking about Nixon when he lost to JFK, saying the press wouldn't have him to kick around anymore. Politicians have more lives than cats.

THRVPashun: <---hand raised :) it was sooo good! :)

Guest 3: missed it!

Guest 2: Glory was on TV? shucks :(

Tnkrbell77: <--saw it from the green room
dang....I missed it

THRVGloryB: Pashie! Did you see me?

Guest 7: <~~doesn't watch TV :-(

THRVGloryB: It was a very silly show! But lots of fun.

Guest 3: what show?

THRVPashun: OH YES!!! You and HGB were the stars! :)

THRVGloryB: Good for you, Guest7.

Tnkrbell77: silly?

THRVPashun: The hostess and the others were dolts :)

Guest 6: ::nods at Guest 7:: last time I touched a TV was to put in a tape I bought... I dont' even get the normal stations *chuckle*...my computer...uh, that's another thing entirely. and I think I support Waldenbooks all by myself.

Guest 4: <---is a TV

Guest 2: What show?

Tnkrbell77: <---was hanging on every word

THRVGloryB: One of the big topics they debated is whether Ally McBeal is too thin. gack! But, tink, it's your bounden duty to hang on each of my words.

Guest 2: who is Ally McBeal?

Tnkrbell77: of course.

THRVGloryB: Guest 2--LOL!

Guest 2: what? ::blink::

THRVGloryB: Guest2, I went up to NYC last week & taped a talk show that ran on the FOX news channel.

Guest 6: I think the only reason I ever heard of Ally...was the dancing baby incident... which I will now promplty return to the dregs of my brain to be best-forgotten.

THRVGloryB: Ally McBeal is a popular sitcom, aimed at young women, I believe.

Guest 2: I'm sorry I missed it Glory

THRVPashun: {{{ Guest8}}}

THRVGloryB: It's okay, Guest2. You probably don't even get the channel.

Tnkrbell77: err... but .. I like ally mcBeal.. (blush)

Guest 8: {{{{{{{{{{{Pashun}}}}}}}}}}}}} {S wolfkiss

Guest 2: LOL

THRVGloryB: Pashie, I thought Helen Gurley Brown was fabulous! She still kicks tushie.

Guest 8: Hi Glory

Guest 5: We caught it Glory, HGB was a riot!

THRVGloryB: Hiya, Guest8!

THRVGloryB: Did you like her, Guest5? She was *so* nice!

THRVPashun: yes, she sure does :)

Guest 5: she's sweet. I loved her.

THRVGloryB: Can you believe she's 77!?! AWESOME.

Guest 5: no kidding.

Guest 2: gosh, I'm so removed from things :(

THRVGloryB: And (looking meaningfully at tink) what *incredible* gold jewelry she has. ;-)

Guest 5: awww, maybe they'll show a rerun Guest2.

Guest 6: {{{{ Guest2}}}}} I know exactly how you feel.

THRVGloryB: Aw, Guest2, pop culture really sucks. :-) The good thing about this show, though, was that although they were hoping to use SM... as an example of how American morality is falling to pieces, they did let me contradict them.

Tnkrbell77: oops

Guest 2: thanks Guest5 and Guest 6:-) I imagined they would...hence you as a guest

THRVGloryB: Come to think of it...they couldn't shut me up. :-)

Guest 3: LOL

Guest 6: ::grins::

Guest 4: LOL

Guest 6: ...sounds like me when I get on a pet subject...

Guest 7: Bumper sticker I saw once...."Turn your TV Off and think for yourself"

THRVPashun: and your hair was....straight!!! :) LOL

Tnkrbell77: my straight haired for a day Mistress.

THRVGloryB: Pashie, was that bizarre or WHAT? I guess I looked too ethnic for their tastes.... with my big mop of Jewish curls. :-) Welcome, Stanly!

Guest 5: hey Guest9.

THRVPashun: smooches Guest 9:) Glory you were beautiful :)

Guest 9: Hi Guest5! Hi Ms. Brame Wow..Hi Pashun

Tnkrbell77: not a curl in sight on Judith's show

THRVGloryB: For those who didn't see the show, I was on a panel with Helen Gurley Brown (of "Cosmo" fame)...a gal named Jane Pratt (who founded/run "Jane" magazine), and a well-known young author... named Elizabether Wurtzel (she wrote Prozac Nation & a new book, Bitch).

Guest 2: oh my

Guest 9: I saw! Great!

THRVGloryB: Did you enjoy it, Guest9?

THRVPashun: They didn't impress me at all :)

Guest 10: hi people can I join in.

THRVGloryB: What amazes me, though, is that the two younger women really didn't seem to identify as feminists AT ALL... it was HG Brown who declared herself a committed feminist. Not what one would expect from a Cosmo girl. :-) Hiya, Guest10! Welcome. Jump right in.

Guest 5: Hi Guest10, course you can.

Guest 6: sure, hop in, they don't seem to mind *me*...*grin*

Guest 9: I really did.....I thought that you should have taken them all out clubbing in the sequel!

Guest 2: In what way?

Guest 10: is this a room where we can get a little personal.

THRVPashun: Please feel free to ask a question by typing a ? Guest10 make a comment by typing a ! :) I will call on you in order :)

THRVGloryB: Guest10, sure! As long as it's related to BDSM/kinky sex of some kind...everyone's welcome to get as personal as they like.

Tnkrbell77: Personal sadomasochism as opposed to impersonal sadomasochism

THRVPashun: oooh the best kind, Tink :)

Guest 10: please tell me what is bdsm.

Guest 2: LOL Tink

THRVGloryB: Guest10, that is bondage & discipline, sadomasochism. That is the main theme of this weekly conference.

Tnkrbell77: <---likes both kinds

Guest 5: Tink's wound up tonight. What'd you do to him, Glory?

THRVGloryB: Guest 5--I think the problem is that tink hasn't been "wound up" all week. If you get my drift. :-)

Guest 10: never done this sexually before,

Guest 5: aaah, I see. no piercings yet then?

THRVGloryB: What did you want to talk about, Guest10? Guest5, not this week. :-)

Guest 5: Hi Guest11, cute name.

Guest 11: thank you : )

Guest 10: not not piercings, can orgasm be reached with bondage. I was under impression that wasn't allowed

Guest 6: does anyone else consider getting a pet a form of torture? *blink*

Guest 1: lol depends on the pet.

THRVGloryB: Guest10, what gave you the impression that people in bondage couldn't have orgasms?

Guest 6: well, I want a snake and she's terrified of them *laugh*

Guest 11: ?

Guest 7: ?

THRVGloryB: Yes, Guest11?

Guest 10: I just thought bondage, wasn't the usual type of touchy feely, sex.

THRVGloryB: Guest10, it all depends on who's doing it. Some people really enjoy... tying their partners up and teasing them (sexually)...sometimes to orgasm. All depends on the couple.

THRVPashun: Guest7, I have you on the list...you will be next after Guest 11:)

Guest 11: my experience with bondage has always been using it to HEIGHTEN the sexual experience, isn't that common?

Guest 5: seems pretty touchy feely to me : )

Guest 1: lol

Guest 10: is oral sex and regular intercourse a part of bondage.

THRVGloryB: Now, sometimes the dominant may be SO mean she might not let her partner come...she'll just tease him...and torment him...and tease him some more... until he's moaning and begging for relief.... of course, no one in this room would ever do that, right?

Tnkrbell77: My mean Mistress.


Guest 5: lol yeah, I know, he who laughs last...

Guest 1: quick, get out the Skinner box, we gotta shrink

Guest 6: *grin* should we pity you or be jealous of you, Tink?

THRVGloryB: Guest 10--it is for some couples and not for others. There are no "rules"...

Guest 12: awww poor tink.......*smile*

Tnkrbell77: Guest6.. it depends on your point of view I guess.

Guest 11: for me, THAT is exactly what bondage is for... to delay the response

THRVGloryB: which say you should or shouldn't mix sex and bondage.

Guest 8: Glory I do that to her does that count?

Guest 8: Glory even dang paws

THRVGloryB: Guest8--you mean you sensually tease & torment your partner?

Guest 11: hey room, I think we are suppose to type a ? first, then wait for her to allow us to ask that way, we are not all asking things at once, and we CAN get answers : )

THRVGloryB: Yes, Guest11--I think a lot of couples really love bondage for that very reason you can extend foreplay and arousal endlessly that way.

Guest 1: yep, thats the protocol

Guest 5: oops, THRVHoney isn't here to keep us in line tonight.

Guest 8: Yes Glory I do. It takes her to a higher level .

Tnkrbell77: we are in an undisciplined room.

THRVPashun: I am the top and bottom tonight :)

Tnkrbell77: Pashun is a switch tonight.

THRVGloryB: Pashie! How kinky!!

Guest 1: ahh, Pash is a digital switch...

THRVPashun: LOL :) I love to be kinky! ;)

Guest 12: Alright Pash......

Guest 9: an interesting concept dear Pashun!

Guest 11: ?

THRVPashun: Guest11, you can continue :)

THRVPashun: Guest7 will be next in line :)

Guest 11: isn't it up to each partnership to decide what forms of play, sex, etc that they enjoy? not set rules, like can't do oral AND bondage, etc... who would write the rules, right?

THRVGloryB: Guest11, that is the TRUTH. Exactly. It always bothers me when I see folks get their knickers in a twist...(or panties in a knot, for the Southerners)... trying to make up hard & fast rules about the "thou shalts" of SM...

Guest 8: Guest11 it is. I know we discuss everything that we will do

Guest 11: I think it is essential... and a common misunderstanding with D/s

THRVGloryB: IMO, the only important rule is "play safe".

Guest 6: "Thou shalt not make any unflexible rules...?" besides that one, of course ^_^

THRVGloryB: Guest 11--why do you think people try to create such rules?

Guest 5: lol

Guest 8: But I perfer we both discuss what will happen during the love making session

THRVGloryB: Of course, Guest6! :-)

Guest 11: many people thing D/s or SM is someone MAKING someone else do things, not consensual

Guest 8: True Guest11.

THRVGloryB: Guest 8--do you discuss it beforehand? Or as you go along?

Guest 11: when I read your book Different Loving... the most important message I got was both should get off on it

THRVGloryB: That's what I believe whole-heartedly, Guest11.

Guest 11: I think each couple should create their own rule, and not care what others think

Guest 8: Glory we discuss it. Then go along as thing come along. BUT we discuss it first

Guest 6: besides the fact that if you're a sub it's hard to make the other person do anything.

THRVGloryB: I think both partners should be equal in this respect: that they get equal amounts of pleasure... from the bdsm they do together.

Guest 11: but try just one time not pleasing a sub : )

Guest 3: does it spoil the flow if you discuss it as you go along?

THRVGloryB: Guest8, I ask because a lot of people find it very difficult to communicate... their needs and fantasies to their partners. BDSM forces people to learn to communicate. It's a necessary skill for us.

Guest 1: ?

Guest 11: !

THRVPashun: Question queue... Guest7 and Guest1...

Guest 7: As a dom/me are any of you certified in CPR/Frist Aide?

THRVPashun: go ahead with your comment Guest11 and then we'll take Guest7's question :)

Guest 7: sorry

THRVPashun: that's ok..thanks for your patience :)

Guest 2: good question Guest 7

Guest 2: lol

Guest 8: Glory believe me. My lover and I do not have a problem discussing our fantasies. THe only one I is a 3 some.

THRVGloryB: Guest7--I have a certificate in CPR.

Guest 7: :-)

Guest 6: {{ Guest7 }} oh, thou paragon of patience!

THRVGloryB: Have never had cause to use it--and haven't gone back for refreshers (probaby should).

Guest 7: I had an experience recently....Saw that no matter how SS&C we claim to be. The probability for an accident is ALWAYS there

THRVPashun: Guest11, did you want to make a comment?

Guest 11: my comment: I was taught it is ESSENTIAL to discuss needs, and especially boundaries, limits! and they MUST be discussed BEFORE... no time during

THRVPashun: Guest1, go ahead with your question, dear :)

THRVGloryB: Guest11, again, I agree. It's really helpful if people spend some time...talking about all those things before they begin playing.

Guest 1: some subs feel that if they tell the Dom/me what turns them on, that the Dom/me will be doing it to please the

Guest 11: and??? LOL

Guest 1: sub and not be motivated by their own desires.

Tnkrbell77: a good point Guest1

Guest 6: ?

Guest 1: I want to know the hot buttons but I will do as I please. comments?

THRVPashun: Guest6...you will be next after Guest 1:)

THRVGloryB: Guest1--I think one of the hardest things for subs to understand...
is what a dom gets out of dominating. Subs have no problem understanding...the pleasures of control and helplessness, but they don't always "get"...why a dom would want to do it. So I think they tend to worry, sometimes obsessively...about whether doms are doing it because they WANT to... or because it's a kind of humanitarian gesture on our parts. :-)

Guest 11: !

THRVPashun: yes, Guest11? :)

THRVGloryB: Guest11?

Guest 1: so what can be done about this issue?

Guest 5: yeah, right. humanitarian. that's funny glory.

Guest 1: rotfl

Guest 6: well, if they are dominating just because we want them to, I suppose that would be humanitarian

THRVGloryB: Guest1--I think, for one, it's important to let a sub who worries about this...(i.e., "if I tell the dom what I want, and s/he does it, does this mean I'm 'topping from the bottom'")...

Guest 11: dom/mes are not mind readers, and what is wrong with it being totally mutual pleasure? I get very aroused when I know my dom is doing something he knows drives me wild

Guest 6: gee, now that's a perfect lead-in for my question (whenever I ask it.)

THRVGloryB: that listening to and considering a sub's needs is part of a consensual arrangement... but it is NOT a menu (or an agenda) that a dom follows.

Guest 7: <~~ Likes Guest1's philosophy

THRVGloryB: I want to know what turns my sub on...because I like owning the power...of being able to turn him on whenever & wherever I feel like... not because I see it as my role to facilitate his fantasies.

Guest 1: yes, that's how I see it too, however, there is a certain sub who does not, and is resistant...

Tnkrbell77:

THRVGloryB: For me, knowledge really IS about power.

Guest 1: yes, exactly

THRVPashun: Guest6...you can go ahead and ask your question :)

THRVGloryB: Guest1--yes, I know Guest5 has expressed problems over control issues.

Guest 1: thanx :)

Guest 5: psst...tnk...do you tell her EVERYTHING?

THRVGloryB:

Tnkrbell77: EVERTHING. She insists.

Guest 5: ROFL!!!!! course you do. I knew that.

THRVGloryB: Tink is an exceptionally courageous man. It takes a lot of courage to be honest. To be completely naked with your dom. It is one of the qualities I love most about him.

Guest 1: <-- listening closely

Guest 5: <--shutting up.

Guest 6: question being...my lover and I are both new to this (her more so than I) and are still trying to figure out just what we are...my main problem is that (from what I like) I'm more of a switch...

Tnkrbell77:

THRVGloryB: (Another quality I love is the way he always blushes)

Tnkrbell77: oh my

Guest 6: but it's hard to..hmm..(I am not cetain how to dsay it)...if she is really sincere about it. but then we are still new to each other. (I think I stumbled over that question, but that's the best I can put it) is there any way to really figure out

THRVGloryB: Don't worry about the words, Guest6. Just tell us what you think/feel. Are you saying you aren't sure if your partner is sincere? Or that you feel unsure yourself about which role you prefer?

Guest 6: both!

THRVGloryB: Guest6, I don't think we can make any judgment on her sincerity...
since she isn't here to speak for herself...

Guest 6: ::nods::

THRVGloryB: as for the switchiness--do you feel you must select one role? There are many people out there who enjoy both sides and...establish relationships that allow them to have both experiences.

Guest 6: I don't want to select one role, it is rather that I think she is uncomfortable with having to switch roles.

THRVGloryB: Some people switch with their (monogamous) partner...and others seek out secondary relationships, where they can express...a side of themselves they might not share with their primary partner. Guest6, which role do you think she prefers?

Guest 6: ::nods:: I've been in multiple relationships, the main problem is that we're both rather devoted to each other. She seems to enjoy both, it's just that she is more hesitant at being dom. and I'm into certain whether or into that is because she doesn't want to, or just because we haven't been together

THRVGloryB: Have you talked to her about that?

Guest 6: yes,only she has a very hard time talking about it.

THRVGloryB: Guest6--have you lent her DifLove? :-) Sometimes talking about themes in a book....is less threatening than talking about oneself.

Guest 6: ::shakes head:: don't have my own copy...I suppose I need to raid waldenbooks again. I don't know if she has read it or not.

THRVGloryB: Guest6--there are a number of books out there worth reading...

Guest 11: ?

THRVPashun: Guest11, go ahead :)

THRVGloryB: I always recommend that as a way to open dialogue in couples...
Guest11? Would you like to add something here?

Guest 11: I have known a man for several months, I feel strong love for him, I am a sub.. he acts like...he has no interest, and thinks it is a bit kinky... any suggestions?

THRVGloryB: Guest11--do you have any reason to believe that he actually IS (or could be) dom? Also, when you say he thinks it's "a bit kinky," do you mean he disapproves?

Guest 11: he is naturally dominate, and very easily could be...I pointed that out to him, and he did not seem interested I think being dominate means being mean to me, in his eyes

THRVGloryB: Well the problem, Myss, is that if *he* doesn't want to act on his dominance... even if he does have the potential, it may always be a big struggle between you.

Tnkrbell77: oops.. the old "convert the vanilla" program. :-(

Guest 11: I think he does not have a very open mind to exploring what could be, unfortunately

THRVGloryB: A person has to want it for himself. That's a shame, Guest11. I've known many people, over the years... who I knew, in my heart, were sub or dom.... yet they themselves felt so guilty or uptight about kink... that they simply could never give themselves permission even to experiment.

Guest 11: no... I don't want to convert him... I just REALLY miss it and this being a sexual pleasure, I just can't go out and find ANOTHER dance partner

THRVGloryB: I understand, Guest11. But hanging your hopes on someone who... is unable to satisfy your submissive desires will probably... create a lot of pain and difficulty for you in the long run.

Guest 5: sure it's not more than just a sexual pleasure to you, Guest11?

Guest 11: it is all the pleasures possible, actually - emotional, sexual, physical, sensual... and since I "came out" I have been determined to finally explore that

Guest 5: so are you willing to give all that up???

THRVGloryB: Guest11, does your friend understand that BDSM is a consensual and (one hopes) loving relationship? Is he open-minded enough, perhaps, to meet some of your kinky friends... or to read some books on the subject to help him understand?

Guest 11: his remarks sound like he thinks it is just something in my head that I can do without...for me, it seems in my blood, to my core

Guest 1: ouch...

Guest 11: I can't force a man to dom me, that is for sure

THRVGloryB: Guest11--I think most of us in here feel as you do that bdsm is at the core of our sexual identities.

Guest 5: but you can find the RIGHT one.

THRVGloryB: But for someone who doesn't feel that way, it's almost impossible to understand... they think SM is a choice we make...well, acting on our feelings may be the choice we make...but we had no choice about having our feelings.

Guest 1: Guest11, it's a need that won't go away.

Guest 9: ?

Guest 11: I know it won't go away, and I don't want to give up, without trying to show him why it is important to me

THRVGloryB: For us, I think, the question is simply: do we accept ourselves as we are...and act on our needs or keep our true selves bottled up and hidden?

THRVPashun: Folks, I am sorry to say that our time is up for tonight :(

THRVGloryB: Guest9, you're our last question for the night!

Guest 9: Does anyone think that passionately rewarding any random dominance would help to liberate a latent Dom?

Tnkrbell77: Good luck Guest11!!

Guest 1: gasp, over already? :-((

Guest 11: :)

THRVGloryB: Guest11, I hope you'll come back and talk more about this...I'd just like to say one more thing about your situation...be careful not to try to CONVINCE him of anything. If he doesn't feel it within himself, chances are he never will...he will--at best--only do it for your sake. That is not very satisfying to a sub.

THRVGloryB: Guest1--this chat goes by FAST, no?! Guest9...again, it really depends on the dominant and whether...she has those urges. Positive re-enforcement is great...and if those feelings are genuinely latent within her... then it could lead to success.

Guest 1: a blink. a twink. a wink of an eye. Eh tink?

Guest 11: I don't want him to do it, just for me... I would know, and you are right it would not satisfy - thanks

Tnkrbell77: yes indeed!

Guest 5: lol

THRVGloryB: But you should also be prepared for the possibility... that the positive re-enforcement doesn't lead to anything... if she herself is not ready to take on the role & responsibilities of being dominant. Guest11, we all feel for you. It's a tough situation to love someone...and yet not see the kind of sexual compatability one desires. :-( Anyway, my dear friends.... I think we have drifted way past the hour!

Guest 5: Good luck, Guest11.

Guest 1: Thanks again Glory. Nite all. :-)

Guest 9: I was not clear. I meant that he might suddenly find that he has the right to be a dom...different than being an abuser

THRVGloryB: Pashie, I guess we needed Honey to keep us disciplined. :-)

THRVPashun: goodnight all :) Ohhhh don't let her hear that! :) LOL

Guest 6: discipline is always good.

THRVGloryB: Ah, I see what you're saying, Guest9. Yes, if the problem...is that he's guilty or ashamed, then letting him know he's loved...for doing those things is the best positive re-enforcement I can think of. Discipline is always NECESSARY...(at least where tink's concerned )

Guest 9: Yes...some men are brought up overly protective of women!

Guest 1: snickers...

Tnkrbell77: <--seems to attract discipline. :-)

Guest 5: lol

THRVGloryB: Well, folks, should we all say goodbye? :-)

Guest 3: thank you glory! night all!

Guest 1: <--- eyes Guest5...

THRVPashun: Time for Pashie Poo to go to beddy bye :) Goodnight dear Glory :) Night everyone :)

THRVGloryB: tink, you seem to attract disciplinarians too. ;-)

Guest 5: goodbye Glory, pash, tink, everyone.

Guest 6: good night, sleep well, and dream deep.

Guest 1: nite folks

Guest 9: Goodnight everyone!

THRVGloryB: Night all! Thanks for another great chat!!



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