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Transcript of Different Loving
Conference on AOL for 01-29-99
with Gloria Brame (THRVGloryB) and moderator Pashun
TOPICS
Casual Chat BDSM and Childhood Trauma
THRVGloryB: Thank god we're all
perverts in here. :-)
THRVPashun: there are a few more coming... tee hee :)
Guest 1: We'll, uh, hold the fort while you're gone.
THRVGloryB: Guest2, the flu has inflicted yet a new, more ghastly
indignity on yours truly. :-) I may have to mainline kaopectate
at this rate. :-)
THRVPashun: {{Geust3}}
Guest 2: that's terrible
Guest 3: thank you Pahun
Guest 4: lol
THRVPashun: you are very welcome ;)
THRVGloryB: I'm trying to think of it as an adventure in watersports.
:-)
Guest 3: this is quite a test of will to get here.
Guest 2: Gosh
THRVPashun: LOL :) where there is a will, there's a way! :)
Guest 6: LOL
Guest 5: I keep adding people to my buddy list and sending them
the links lol
Guest 3: I always try to be resourceful or at least a resource
that is used.
THRVGloryB: Thanks, Guest5! We will prevail! Thanks, Guest3!
THRVPashun: yup ;)
THRVGloryB: I think I can fairly say that this has been a shitty
turn of events. So to speak.
Guest 1: A-hem! ;-)
THRVPashun: but we will make the most of it :) glad you found
us, Guest 7:)
Guest 7: wasn't sure for a min
THRVGloryB: Well, hello to all you stalwart perverts. I'm amazed
you've all managed to get here. :-) What a night!
Guest 6: Hi Guest7
Guest 7: hey all
Guest 6: LOL Glory
Guest 6: so, it's only 9:30...not so bad...12:30 your time..LOL
Guest 5: okey doke
THRVPashun: it must have been the trail of nipple clamps I left
:) hahah
THRVGloryB: Apologies to those of you who showed up last week--I
have had the flu from HELL.
Guest 2: it was easy..we just clicked on the link Gloria
Guest 5: hey Guest7, nice font color, how'd you do that?
Guest 6: Feeling better?
THRVPashun: Did I say THAT? :)
Guest 8: nipple clamps don't grow on trees
THRVGloryB: Good thinking, Pash.
Guest 1: Yep, you SURE did Pash! ;-)
THRVGloryB: Guest6, yes and no. :-)
THRVPashun: :)
Guest 7: lol, playing with new software for AOL and I find all
kinds of stuff
Guest 6: Oh...good for yes...sorry for no....
Guest 2: I have some made from trees, does that count?
THRVGloryB: Fever is gone but, er, well, um.... :-) I infected
tinkerbell with it too.
Guest 6: Oh...uh oh...yes, I know...
Guest 5: wowza :) will it werk on a Mac? LOL
Guest 6: My fingers are crossed that it doesn't cross my door
step
Guest 7: maybe, it's called powertools nipple rings?!
Guest 4: not much works on a mac, sweetie. seee???
Guest 7: LOL!
Guest 5: ojeez... PC only. Hisssss
THRVGloryB: Guest5 and Guest4--how's by you? You had the same
flu too, right?
Guest 5: yes but no intestinal trubbles respiratory only, still
coughing after 3 weeks.
Guest 4: um, maybe, sorta, but not THAT kind - and don't want
it either, thanks.
THRVGloryB: Lucky you! Though I've lost about 8-9 lbs in the
past week.
Guest 6: I thought I just red "teletubbies" Red...shows you where
my mind is at...lol
Guest 2: OMG
Guest 4: eeek, for sure don't send it my way then!
THRVPashun: LOL Guest 6: )
THRVGloryB: Guest1, when you see me tmw., I'll be a mere shadow
of my former sadistic self.
Guest 6: Oh wow...I need the flu Glory...LOL
Guest 4: lol
THRVGloryB: Guest5--yep, I'm still coughing too. Yes, shit your
way to thinness. I wonder why Susan Powter never thought of
that?
Guest 7: hair balls are terrible
Guest 4: ROFL!
Guest 2: LMAO
Guest 2: oh
Guest 6: LOL! I am sure she has!
THRVPashun: LOL :)
Guest 2: pardon the metephore
Guest 5: teletubbies....consumer mind control from hell fer babies...
THRVGloryB: Say, we're in a private room now. I can say anything
I like, right?
Guest 3: lol Guest2
Guest 6: yes! those darn triplets of mine..LOL
THRVGloryB: Teletubbies: now THAT is perverted!
THRVPashun: yes you can...TOS is not applicable here :)
THRVGloryB: YAY!
Guest 4: cool : )
Guest 6: LOL anything goes
Guest 1: GloryB, you'll NEVER be a shadow of your sadistic self!
lol!
Guest 2: ~ has a seat to listen er read actually~
Guest 5: ojoy, now the truth comes out...
THRVGloryB: Even my dog is disgusted with me. :-) It's quite
charming, really.
Guest 6: OH no! bad dog! He needs a spanking
Guest 1: Bobo???
Guest 5: actually Guest2, I never metaphor I didn't like...
THRVGloryB: Somehow it just doesn't seem fair for a Mistress
to be in this condition! Shouldn't it be my slaves?
THRVPashun: ewwww..Guest 5:)
Guest 3: oh Guest5 booo
THRVGloryB: Yes, little Bobo.
Guest 2: oh? how many phors have you met? Lol
Guest 5: LOL
THRVGloryB: At least with a slave, you can put him in a diaper.
Guest 5: 4
Guest 2: omg
Guest 4: lol
Guest 7: lol
THRVGloryB: Yes, Guest2?
Guest 6: LOL! That is true
Guest 4: gads, has everybody been drinking tonight? No, not you
glory, I know.
Guest 2: ~ winkie winx~
THRVGloryB: I'm sure that there is a slave somewhere out there
for whom...this would be a dream come true, no?
Guest 6: LOL
Guest 2: Certainly
THRVGloryB: You can tell the flu has gone to my head, folks.
:-)
THRVGloryB: <--feeling mighty silly
Guest 2: There!!!!
Guest 6: Guest is my online slave.....say hi Mous.
Guest 3: Hello
THRVGloryB: Guest4, I don't have enough electrolytes in my body
right now..to turn on a light.
Guest 3: greetings Guest2
Guest 5: she is away from the screen, she'll brb
THRVGloryB: So (rubbing hands) what would y'all like to talk
about... now that the immediate room-trauma has passed? I'll
just keep a port-a-potty handy so I can keep typing. :-)
Guest 5: cruel nastiness of course
Guest 2: hmmmmm
Guest 8: i always have questions
Guest 6: LOL
THRVPashun: We like questions :)
THRVGloryB: We live for questions!
Guest 6: Gloy...I have an idea for you...
THRVGloryB: Yes, Guest6?
Guest 6: I think you should write a sadistic comedic book....you
sure make us all laugh...
THRVPashun: you mean in her spare time, Guest6? :) LOL
THRVGloryB: As the pundits have oft said, "laughter is the best
medicine"
Guest 6: yes...just in her "spare" time
Guest 2: oooooo like the R Crumb comix, of old?
THRVGloryB: Crumb is one of my heroes, Guest2!
Guest 5: mine too
THRVGloryB: Actually, to be honest, the last couple of weeks
have... been one of the worst times of my life... which is why
I keep joking and joking.
Guest 2: Mine too I was a normal young man till Crumb
Guest 6: yes...something like that...
Guest 5: why
Guest 4: : (
THRVPashun: :( {{{Gloria}}}}
Guest 8: oh Glory
Guest 6: oh no...sorry to hear about that...
Guest 7: whats normal?
THRVGloryB: Yep. Pretty rough.
Guest 7: sick?
Guest 3: sorry to hear tht Ms Glory
THRVGloryB: The flu was part of it. This was one heckuva flu.
But my dad is dying. That's been the horrible part.
Guest 6: Life gets pretty sucky at times...I know that for a
fact....as we all do, I am sure...
Guest 2: oh no been there done that
Guest 6: OH...no...I am sorry.... How old was he?
THRVPashun: I am so sorry to hear that
Guest 4: sorry to hear it Glory.
Guest 3: i am so sorry Ms Glory
THRVGloryB: he's got Alzheimer's. he's 78, Guest6. The disease
just took a major turn for the worse. Pretty gruesome.
Guest 4: ouch.
Guest 5: and damn
Guest 6: oh...my grandmother died this year..she had Alzheimers
THRVPashun: Gloria...you are here now with people who adore
you...let us give you strength :)
Guest 6: such a terrible disease
THRVGloryB: Awwwww. Thanks, Pashie. Guest6, did she
go through a phase of being violent?
Guest 6: Yes...very much so....there was a time when I was working
in the ER and had gone to her hospital room to check on her
and she started screaming at me telling me I was an awful person
she told me that I should go to hell for all the trouble I put
my parents through and then she told me that she hated me and
wanted me to die
Guest 7: hey glory, don't ever think that you are ready for it
to happen.....
THRVPashun: oh Guest6 ;(
THRVGloryB: Oh my! How sad. OH! You poor thing.
Guest 5: Guest6, you knew it was the illness and not the reality
right?
Guest 2: It is important to remember good times when this happens,
or shortly after My dad didn't even recognize me
THRVGloryB: My dad has tried to strangle people. :-(
Guest 6: Yeah...it was a sad sight...kept telling me it was her
illness, yes..but I will never forget and before the illness,
she was beautiful..and the most loving woman any person has
ever met everyone loved her...strangers adored her...very sad
THRVGloryB: It's hard to reconcile the person my father was
for most of his life... with the very violent, aggressive person
he is now.
Guest 5: Glory, do you have people around you with good counseling
skills?
THRVGloryB: That is terribly sad, Guest6.
Guest 9: hi everyone.. thanks
for the link Guest 2: )
THRVPashun: hi Guest9...glad you found us ;)
Guest 6: Yes....I totally understand
Guest 9: thanks : )
THRVGloryB: Guest5, my family is all in New York. I'm alone
here (well, with Will and friends, etc.). Hi, Guest9. Sorry,
you've walked in on a morbid conversation.
Guest 6: thanks glory....
Guest 5: that makes it difficult
Guest 1: GOOD friends ... :-)
Guest 9: thats okay a lot of my life has been morbid
THRVGloryB: VERY good friends. Cuddling
my dog is sometimes the best therapy in the world for me. :-)
Guest 8: mind if I add something about saying things when one
is ill?
Guest 9: pets are wonderful therapy : )
Guest 1: Ohhhh ... thank you :-)
THRVGloryB: Sure, Guest8. Go ahead!
Guest 8: after a baby I had an epidural headache that lasted
for days after it finally responded to treatment...i was told
I said horrible things things I never consciously thought all
I remember was seeing screaming gargoyles
THRVGloryB: Oh dear. :-(
Guest 9: oh how awful
Guest 4: you sure that was an epidural they gave you Guest8?
Guest 8: so keep this in mind when these folks say awful things.
yes
Guest 4: ...sometimes it really messes up but anyway
THRVPashun: Guest8, good point.. illness and medication can
often change people
Guest 2: ~ nods~
THRVGloryB: Well....my family (sister and mother) aren't making
things easier. I come from a *really* dysfunctional family.
(No surprise, I'm sure)
Guest 5: what are they doing?
THRVPashun: all families are, I think
Guest 9: in some way, i would agree
THRVGloryB: They are being hysterical. I've always been the
"calm" one.
Guest 7: then you need to be strong for them glory
Guest 8: ahh...my mother would scream my father wasn't dying
they don't edit their emotions
THRVGloryB: That's a good way to put it, Guest8. let me ask
folks...do any of you feel your parents' dynfunctionality...
has had any impact on your own sexual identities?
Guest 9: that, and the calm one gets a lot of responsibility
and weight to carry
Guest 2: I do!
Guest 4: yep. don't we all?
Guest 4: oh. that.
Guest 8: my mother had munchausen syndrome by proxy...it certainly
has
Guest 5: yes definately.
THRVGloryB: In my case, I'd say that ever since I was a very
tiny child... my family saw me as the calm, controlled one,
and turned to me... for decisions they couldn't make.
Guest 9: OMG yes... my Mom is the Dominant role in the family
and my dad is a more "submissive" emotionally
Guest 5: you were the adult all along
THRVGloryB: I think it had an enormous influence on my need
to be in control. Pretty much, Guest5. Being "childish" was
frowned on in my household. Guest9--that's true in my family
too. Though my mom is very childish herself.
Guest 4: wow...and with me it was the exact opposite.
Guest 8: but Glory...I was like that as a child and now I have
a need to submit to a man
Guest 9: I had so much responsibility cause i was the good kid
and took on the burdens of my mom's emotions that my dad wouldn't
listen to
Guest 2: hmmmm In my case, the absence of control, led me to
have to BE in control
Guest 5: nature and nurture again, the combination of predisposition
and environment...
THRVGloryB: Guest2--no one was in control in your family?
Guest 9: oy that makes for odd dynamics too
Guest 2: newp, it was a mess
Guest 2: things got done somehow
THRVGloryB: Oy is the word, Guest9. :-)
Guest 9: Indeed : ) Mine is control.. I wanted a safe place to
give it up with a Dominant man
Guest 8: for me there was no one to really trust as a child...a
big kick in d/s is the trust
Guest 5: interesting comment Guest8...
Guest 6: Your family sounds like mine Gloria.
Guest 8: I've never trusted anyone so before
THRVGloryB: Guest9, I think with me, it developed into a sense
that if I let anyone else...control anything it will be sure
to get messed up. I'm a real control freak.... in all areas
of my life, not just sexually.
Guest 6: I used to think my family was like the Brady Bunch and
now I realize how messed up it was
Guest 2: Yah what you said!!
Guest 4: lol
Guest 7: I trusted someone ONCE
THRVGloryB: What happened, Guest7?
Guest 9: I'm a HUGE control freak... just being sexually
submissive is like my outlet so I relate to you Glory.. I just
went out the other branch on the tree : )
Guest 7: I got burned
THRVPashun: Guest7 and you will learn to trust again
THRVGloryB: I was also molested as a child...a whole 'nother
story. So, for me, the dominant role is really the only place
I feel safe.
Guest 8: humiliation and pain excite me...I'm sure that's connected
to childhood
Guest 7: You know, I have wondered about that but it doesn't
seem that way right now
Guest 6: Boy, can I relate to you Glory.
THRVGloryB: The deeper and harder I can control someone, the
more of a high it is for me. Right, Guest1? :-)
Guest 1: lol! A deeper truth has NEVER been spoken!
THRVGloryB: Anyone else see patterns between what happened to
them as children...and how it's expressed in their adult sexuality?
Guest 5: yep, all over the place
THRVGloryB: Although I don't believe all D&S'ers were "abused"
(as some people claim)... I do think family dynamics make a
lasting impression on our sexual identities.
Guest 8: oh Glory...I just finished a draft of a novel that tells
that story
Guest 6: I had men trying to molest me as a child...uncles, older
boys, and neighbors
Guest 7: Hey glory, I knew a gal like that once, good friend,
she was abused and neglected and she tried to conquer any male
that showed her attention
THRVGloryB: Conquer him how, Guest7?
Guest 7: she would pour all she had into seducing him and controlling
him the affection that she recieved only intensified her efforts
THRVGloryB: Guest5, Guest2--do you see things that influenced
your dominance as men?
Guest 5: yes
Guest 2: When in 3rd grade I had hot water for breakfast a few
times...there was no one in control.. the grownups were helpless
it seemed, and I resolved to be in control of my destiny, not
under the control of others
THRVGloryB: Will had a very troubled childhood too. He has major
control issues because of it. Oh my, Guest2. How awful.
Guest 1: I had a mother who was impossible to please ... I think
that plays into my need to please now.
Guest 8: my therapist once told me I had survivor's guilt and
masochism was often a part of this d/s I'm discovering is letting
me play out my masochism safely
Guest 4: omg...DITTO Guest1!!! and it's STILL the same.
THRVGloryB: Guest8--why "survivor's guilt"?
Guest 8: getting away from my extended family...and my mother
had munchausen syndrome by proxy do you know what that is?
Guest 9: omg yes
Guest 3: yes Guest8 it is terrible
Guest 4: yep
THRVGloryB: Yes, Guest8, I do. Did your mom drag you to a lot
of doctors/hospitals? It is an awful thing. Very frightening
to a child.
Guest 8: yes
Guest 5: rough place to grow in Guest8...
Guest 7: so what is it? call me the idiot of the bunch I guess
Guest 8: she thought she was being a good mother but I find pain
and humiliation arousing
THRVGloryB: Guest7, Munchausen Syndrome is when someone... is
neurotically obsessed with doctors/hospitals... They will go
in for unnecessary surgeries... constantly insist they are ill,
and get doctors to prescribe... medicines and treatments. "By
proxy" means...the parents will make the child undergo all that.
Guest 5: LOL, it is a rare thing, not many people know act it
out on their children too.'
Guest 8: what my mother did was enemas twice a day for years
until I started bleeding and convinced doctors there was something
wrong with me
Guest 3: or have their kids go in
Guest 7: JEEZ! sounds terrible
THRVGloryB: It's a very sad neurosis.
Guest 2: I have heard that some will inflict harm on thier kids
so that they'll be treated
Guest 3: to say the least, Ms Glory
THRVGloryB: Guest8, that is just SO sad. You must have been
so frightened. :-(
Guest 9: but isn't it also like they don't realize actually the
harm they are causing
Guest 8: but I got out of it...and my Master plays with what
arouses me because of this I had metal rods shoved up my ass
without lube to "stretch" me...that was the treatment years
ago a park avenue procotologist explained this to me
THRVGloryB: OMIGOD, Guest8.
Guest 3: that was terrible
THRVPashun: OMG :(
THRVGloryB: Was your father around, Guest8?
Guest 2: ~ just shakes his head~
Guest 8: but...i also eroticized it not when my mother was doing
the enemas... he thought i was ill
Guest 7: heavy pucker factor here!
THRVGloryB: Oh boy. Is your mother still alive, Guest8?
Guest 8: yes, she is
Guest 6: I am suprised you are still alive Guest8.
THRVGloryB: Have you ever talked about it?
Guest 8: not really with her...she gets euphemistic and I've
actually forgiven her but with d/s...it's the first time I've
fully experienced myself sexually
Guest 6: You are a strong person Baking, aren't you? strong emotionally,
I mean...
Guest 5: wow, euphemistic... what a name for denial huh Guest8...
my family is like that too.
THRVGloryB: Guest8, I imagine some of those experiences still
figure...in your fantasy life?
Guest 8: absolutely ass raised on a table exposed for all to
see don't think my Master doesn't play with this
Guest 4: lol....so what's my excuse?
Guest 8: I've gotten past the shame of admitting that part of
that was erotic for me as a child
THRVGloryB: What an invasion of your privacy, as a child. That
would have to leave a lasting effect on you.
Guest 5: I have long thought that D/s, with someone who knows
what they are doing, could be powerful therapy.
Guest 3: sounds like a crime to me
THRVPashun: Guest8..there are studies that have shown that children
who are abused often eroticize the abuse. That is not uncommon
Guest 2: I have to go
Guest 6: bye Guest2
THRVGloryB: It can be, Guest5. Though it's a very volatile area.
Guest 8: yes...but admitting it's erotic was a big step for me
THRVGloryB: I hope we didn't upset Guest2
Guest 8: oh my
Guest 5: the body betrays us by enjoying what we do not know
is wrong.
Guest 6: Guest 8: were you the only child abused in your household?
Guest 8: in that way, yes I was the oldest
THRVPashun: Guest2 is fine :)
Guest 6: In a way, that's good..that you were the only one Guest8...so
as not to hurt your siblings
THRVGloryB: Oh good. This is a very intense chat tonight...
I'm kinda glad we're having this in private.
Guest 8: I realize it's a strong topic...don't mean to scare
folks off
THRVPashun: me too
THRVGloryB: Guest8, as far as I'm concerned, the truth is always
important to discuss. You're among friends... I think most of
us here are pretty strong individuals.
Guest 5: not scaring anyone Guest8
Guest 6: Yes...and it is good to be open and to share...
THRVGloryB: Yes, it's important to be able to talk about these
things.. we SMers so seldom have an opportunity to really get
into... these very deep, very private secrets.
Guest 8: so my childhood definitely impacted my sexuality I was
really frigid before this man
Guest 9: that's so true Glory
THRVGloryB: Guest8, can you talk to your master about these
issues? It can be so healing to be able to have someone... who
understands and listens, even to tough truths.
Guest 8: I did for three years before I met him and I ended up
writing a novel
Guest 6: that is a very good outlet for you Guest8...writing...
Guest 8: I've been a professional writer for years...but never
wrote about this
Guest 6: wow....you finally opened up to listen to your spirit...it
seems. How old are you ?
Guest 8: 43
THRVPashun: Guest8, you can help many people through your writing
THRVGloryB: Guest8, we're exactly the same age!
Guest 6: yes, I agree...many will understand that they are not
alone. 43 is soooo old! hee hee just kiddng
Guest 8: Glory! why didn't I get into d/s before!
THRVGloryB: Yes, and these are things people are afraid to talk
about.
THRVPashun: and I'm the REAL old lady here :)
THRVGloryB: Now, now, Guest6!! :-)
Guest 5: LOL, then I must be ancient...
Guest 6: I was kidding.
Guest 9: <~~makes no age comments
Guest 3: then I am ancient
THRVGloryB: Guest8, I believe that we all come to D&S when we
need to... there is no right age for it.
Guest 8: I did after my father died
Guest 6: and only when we are ready...I am sure
THRVPashun: sometimes the things we are afraid to talk about
are the things that we NEED to talk about
Guest 5: so true
Guest 8: but there's also one thing I've accepted...I went to
therapy for sometime.. and there are some things that can't
be fixed...my therapist warned me about d/s said I would fall
into an abyss that instead she had to repair my self esteem
I told her sometimes you have to play the hand you're dealt...and
if d/s can do it...why not
THRVGloryB: Exactly, Pashie. Guest8, I very much believe in
"playing the hand you're dealt." If I could go back and undo
some of the damages... done to me in childhood, I would. But
I can't... and since they have shaped my sexuality a certain
way... the most positive way I can deal with it is... by finding
positive, happy outlets for the needs.
Guest 5: Guest8, I have a subtle distinction for you...self esteem
is about doing, self worth is about being, your childhood gave
you a "being" wound. it probably isn't your self esteem that
needs healing, it's likely your self worth, self image
Guest 8: absolutely, Glory
THRVPashun: very well put, Guest
5: )
Guest 8: the hardest thing I ever did was to discontinue that
therapist and meet the Master maybe you guys recall my coming
in here before I met him real time
Guest 6: We are all very well emotional human beings here, don't
you agree?
Guest 5: yes
Guest 4: yep : )
THRVGloryB: Guest6--I'd say we're all very aware human beings.
I think the people who come to this chat regularly... are people
who have given a LOT of serious thought... to these issues...and,
judging by the responses tonight... are pretty courageous about
dealing with truth, no matter how hard or frightening it may
be.
Guest 9: it wasn't that long ago...
Guest 6: yes, that too...lol
Guest 5: lights on and everybody home :-)
Guest 3: I wish you well, Guest8.
THRVGloryB: Night-night, Guest3!
Guest 8: oy...but there's been a shift in my d/s relationship
of late maybe some of you others have experienced this
Guest 4: ...was going to ask but didn't want to be rude : )
THRVGloryB: What's the shift, Guest8?
Guest 8: well..to be frank...it was always...me...me...me...me
going on about me with him and now he's going into telling me
his own issues in detail but then he'll segue and become the
Master again. Did I make any sense?
Guest 9: you see him sharing his own issues as not being the
Master?
THRVGloryB: Good question, Guest9.
Guest 8: it's just new Guest9...it was always me going on about
me he never went on about himself in as much detail
Guest 9: oh so you're seeing him in a new role? or another facet
of his role is probably a better way to say it
Guest 8: as very very vulnerable
Guest 5: Guest8, the better you know him, the better you can
serve him.
Guest 6: You don't like the new role he is sharing with you Baking?
THRVPashun: Folks...let's let Glory get some rest so she can
be back next week feeling wonderful again! :) Thank you all
for putting up with our change of venue! :)
Guest 1: Sounds as if he's opening up to you, Guest8. There IS
a person behind the master.
Guest 8: it's not about not liking...I found it jarring I guess
Guest 5: even Doms need to be understood and known.
THRVGloryB: Agreed, Guest5. Thanks, Pashie.
Guest 6: Yes...Good night all!@
THRVPashun: night Guest 6:)
THRVGloryB: Folks, our corporate apologies for AOL's fuck-ups...
I hope by next week the room will be back... and I will be holding
down fluids. :-)
Guest 4: feel better Glory.
Guest 6: Hope you feel better soon Glory.
Guest 7: hey! made it for the close! Lol
Guest 5: ok, nite all, thanks Glory and Pash.. smooches :-)
Guest 8: thanks for putting up with me again...I think I'm real
time for a whole month now
Guest 9: so easy to use.. no wonder it's number one!
Guest 4: night pash!
THRVGloryB: Congrats, Guest7! You're one of us now! :-) Take
care, all. Big kisses all around... (and spanks to whomever
wants 'em) Bye!
Guest 7: hee hee hee
Guest 4: night everybody.
Guest 9: good night all
THRVPashun: {{{{Gloria}}}} Please take care..
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